Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 01:21:35PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > I have a really hacky tool available that I used to produce such a list > of packages to look at. I even posted it to some list somewhen, one > could probably dig it up using google. I don't seem to have committed > it to my perso

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 02:12:58AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:49:38 +0300, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Is there a tool to check for disallowed conflicts, or a check in > > lintian or linda? > > I think there is a Contents file on most mirrors

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:49:38 +0300, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > su, 2005-07-10 kello 01:44 -0400, Nathanael Nerode kirjoitti: >> Peter Samuelson wrote: Unless someone is willing to actually >> enforce the requirement that all optional packages can coexist, >> this will be necessary

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-07-10 kello 01:44 -0400, Nathanael Nerode kirjoitti: > Peter Samuelson wrote: > Unless someone is willing to actually enforce the requirement that all > optional packages can coexist, this will be necessary to make Policy conform > with reality. Is there a tool to check for disallowed c

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-09 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Peter Samuelson wrote: >In practice, 'extra' is mainly used when Policy forces you to use it: >that is, if your package conflicts with another package which has >priority optional or higher The really sad part is that *this* isn't enforced; there are lots of "optional" packages which conflict with

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-06 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 04:06:22PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Lionel Elie Mamane] > > I recently found some packages in at an IMHO totally wrong priority > > in Debian. > > Yeah. I've been grumbling about optional vs. extra for years. Nobody > wants to consider his own packages 'extra'

Re: Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-07-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Lionel Elie Mamane] > I recently found some packages in at an IMHO totally wrong priority > in Debian. Yeah. I've been grumbling about optional vs. extra for years. Nobody wants to consider his own packages 'extra' because every maintainer feels his own packages are Really Useful. This is a s

Package priorities: optional vs extra

2005-06-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
I recently found some packages in at an IMHO totally wrong priority in Debian. Before taking action, I'd like to arrive at a rough consensus here. I also found some less clear-cut cases, so this prompted me to think a bit about the language in the policy and what it means. The more I think about it