Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Eugene Gorodinsky writes: > No, on the contrary, I'm suggesting to have an additional format for > software that is not system-specific and leaving the system-specific > formats to do what they were designed for (i.e. manage system packages) > rather than reducing the number of formats. I don't

Re: Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-27 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
Sorry for the delay, I've been very busy last week. >> A while ago I participated in a discussion here about the debian >> package format. Quite recently I tried to spark up a discussion about >> package formats on the LSB list but did not get any replies > >Can you point to the message (preferabl

Re: Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-27 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
> I've read that several times, but I still must be missing something. >My impression is that your poins is essentially the following: 1. it's >too much work for "small distros" to use any new format instead of one >of the big established ones; 2. let's reduce the number of big >established format

Re: Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-27 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
>Not to mention that the package format is not the only thing that matters. >It is the contents of the package, the rules, specs and standards that are >followed that cause the most differences. I aggree, and I'm hoping to resolve this issue >Oh and I guess I'm missing something, otherwise why wo

Re: Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-27 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
I believe RPM is not suited well enough for this job, it tries to do everything rather than doing one thing and doing it well. The package format I'm proposing has a few features rpm does not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Eugene Gorodinsky | However I'm not proposing to have a single true package format for all | distributions. Rather my idea is to have a distribution-specific | package format for packages that are distribution-specific, and a | universal package format for packages that aren't specific. Isn't

Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-20 Thread Roland Mas
Eugene Gorodinsky, 2009-11-20 02:01:19 +0200 : > There is a sort of oligopoly in linux because of package management. > There are several main distros which have a lot of package maintainers > and a lot of packages as a result of this. Smaller distros need to > choose between compatibility with ex

Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-19 Thread Raphael Geissert
Ben Finney wrote: > Eugene Gorodinsky writes: [...] > >> hopefully this discussion will be more welcome here. Constructive >> crticism is welcome, so feel free to critique. > > To be honest, I'm not sure what response you expect to get. There's not > much substantive to respond to in your messa

Re: Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-19 Thread Ben Finney
Eugene Gorodinsky writes: > A while ago I participated in a discussion here about the debian > package format. Quite recently I tried to spark up a discussion about > package formats on the LSB list but did not get any replies Can you point to the message (preferably via its Message-Id field) so

Package formats and software distribution on Linux

2009-11-19 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
A while ago I participated in a discussion here about the debian package format. Quite recently I tried to spark up a discussion about package formats on the LSB list but did not get any replies, hopefully this discussion will be more welcome here. Constructive crticism is welcome, so feel free to