Bug#1099615: ITP: gitlab-buildpkg-tools -- Build a Gitlab-PPA using GitLab CI

2025-03-05 Thread Christian Bayle
* License : (GPL-2) Programming Lang: (Bash) Description : Build a Gitlab-PPA using GitLab CI Gitlab-buildpkg-tools is a set of tools to build a "Gitlab-PPA" using GitLab CI, with automatic package rebuild triggered by a push/merge on a branch of your own repository. Afte

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Holger Levsen
hi Alec, please stop mailing this thread and just use an epoch. Before adding^wintroducing an epoch one should consult debian-devel@l.d.o, you have done this, arguments were exchanged and (IMNSHO) no better solution was found, so please do what has done to >1000 source packages in the archive alr

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Alec Leamas
On 03/07/2024 10:10, Philip Hands wrote: Alec Leamas writes: It seems better to take an "If we build it, they will come" approach. New installs will likely get the Debian version without ever needing to discover the PPA, and the rumour will spread (assuming the Debian package work

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
cause pain. > > AIUI the botching was done by whoever put the PPA together. > > If that's the same as upstream, fair enough, but it seemed to me (having > glanced at the repo) that upstream has been using sane versions > throughout. <83d8755d-5f57-47e1-bda3-553

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Philip Hands
Alec Leamas writes: > On 02/07/2024 20:46, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: >>> So, at least three possible paths: >>> >>> 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official >>> pac

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Philip Hands
IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian GNU|Linux) writes: > anyhow here's my 2¢: > according to you¹, upstream have simply botched their package > versioning, which i would consider *a bug*. > bugs cause pain. AIUI the botching was done by whoever put the PPA together. If that'

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Debian GNU|Linux
On 7/3/24 00:28, Alec Leamas wrote: The upstream shall consider adopting 5 digit release version numbering [...] The upstream "shall" not do anything, they are open for discussions but certainly not for dictates. thou shalt not ask if thou wisheth for no answers. (please keep in mind tha

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
ta2, 5.9.3-beta3 so this ordering is, although a bit strange, still ok. However, a quite large user base have PPA packages installed. These have versions like 8767+b2cbf5a3f~ubuntu24.04.1. The prefix is a build number, so they are ordered. but all these versions are higher than anything

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Milan Kupcevic
nge, still ok. However, a quite large user base have PPA packages installed. These have versions like 8767+b2cbf5a3f~ubuntu24.04.1. The prefix is a build number, so they are ordered. but all these versions are higher than anything like 5.9.x. [...] The upstream shall consider adopti

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 20:46, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: So, at least three possible paths: 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x 2. Use

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: > So, at least three possible paths: > > 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official > packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x > > 2. Use versions like 90

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 03:32:53 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 00:54:13 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > Quite. People are quite resistant to spoiling neat version numbers > > with epochs, and no-one likes them, but they don't do any actual harm > > (except sometimes break scripts

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 05:17:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I would use an epoch. yes. [...] > Basically, you'd be burning a lot of social capital with upstream for no > really good reason and you probably still wouldn't be able to convince > them. I don't think it's worth it. yes. > I wo

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi Jens, On 02/07/2024 06:38, Jens Reyer wrote: You may avoid the epoch if upstream is willing to provide a separate package for about 2 years. (I did something similar to get rid of an epoch in Ubuntu's wine packages a few years ago, replacing them with our Debian packages): package 9000.5

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
unifying the Debian, Ubuntu, and PPA version numbers in such a way that packages from those repositories can be used interchangeably. I would suggest that you work with upstream on how they will version things in the future, so you aren't bumping the epoch every year. Agreed. I have many

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Jens Reyer
r that either being 9001 or 9000.1. >> >> Or, possibly, they could encourage everyone to uninstall the PPA package >> before installing an official one. For example, release a new package to >> their >> PPA that displays a message encouraging everyone to uninstall

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
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Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
Is this a case where using a epoch is justified? If > > > not, > > > why? > > > > Adding epochs to work around 3rd-party repo version problems sounds quite > > wrong. > > We don't even add epochs that Ubuntu itself adds. > > > > But th

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 00:54:13 +0100, Wookey wrote: > On 2024-07-01 23:59 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > > But this is not about third parties, it's about upstream which publishes PPA > > packages. So far these are by far the most used Linux packages. > > > >

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 2, 2024 12:26:49 AM UTC, Soren Stoutner wrote: >Alec, > >On Monday, July 1, 2024 5:19:37 PM MST Alec Leamas wrote: >> For Debian users we backport opencpn which works well. However, the >> Ubuntu backport process is, well, interesting (been there, done that). >

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
Alec, On Monday, July 1, 2024 5:19:37 PM MST Alec Leamas wrote: > For Debian users we backport opencpn which works well. However, the > Ubuntu backport process is, well, interesting (been there, done that). > > The PPA represents a much better way to publish backports to curr

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
HI again, This becomes somewhat more complicated than it perhaps is. On 02/07/2024 02:08, Soren Stoutner wrote: Although I generally agree with your conclusions, using a PPA is the type of end user task that involved them making modifications to the repositories on their systems. I would

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Alec Leamas writes: > So, at least three possible paths: > 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official > packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like > 5.10.x > 2. Use versions like 9000.5.10, 9000.5.12. etc. > 3. Use an ep

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
Alec, Is upstream planning to maintain their PPA after the packages are released into Debian? Or, will it be more like Gentoo, OpenSUSE, or Mageia, where the OpenCPN website simply links to the official packages? https://opencpn.org/OpenCPN/info/downloadopencpn.html[1] On Monday, July 1

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
Alec, On Monday, July 1, 2024 4:59:26 PM MST Alec Leamas wrote: > 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official > packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x [...] > Of these I would say that 1. is a **very** hard sell upstream.

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
ating that version 1.0 is newer than 2024.01.05. So have I also understood it. And this is more or less the situation. For all practical purposes the PPA is the current upstream packages, it's not some random packaging of opencpn. I have some control over both the PPA and the debian/ubuntu

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
Soren et. al., On 02/07/2024 01:31, Soren Stoutner wrote: Alec, If upstream wants to fix this problem, they could just make their next release version 9000, with the one after that either being 9001 or 9000.1. Or, possibly, they could encourage everyone to uninstall the PPA package before

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Wookey
On 2024-07-01 23:59 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > But this is not about third parties, it's about upstream which publishes PPA > packages. So far these are by far the most used Linux packages. > > I also hesitate to add an epoch, after all they are basically considered > evil.

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
ting that version 1.0 is newer than 2024.01.05. This is to support upgrades of official Debian packages in Debian repositories from one version to the next. Epocs are not typically used to fix problems in .debs published in some PPA that was never an official part of Debian. This case is a little odd

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 1, 2024 11:25:59 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: >On 02/07/2024 01:19, Alec Leamas wrote: > >> Let's drop this subthread, keeping eyes on the ball: what is a sane version? > >Looking at this from another point of view: is there any situation where an >epoch is appropriate? Yes. I don't th

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Soren Stoutner
;s just a > sad legacy. > > Let's drop this subthread, keeping eyes on the ball: what is a sane version? > > --a If upstream wants to fix this problem, they could just make their next release version 9000, with the one after that either being 9001 or 9000.1. Or, possibly

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 01:19, Alec Leamas wrote: Let's drop this subthread, keeping eyes on the ball: what is a sane version? Looking at this from another point of view: is there any situation where an epoch is appropriate? --alec

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi again On 02/07/2024 01:13, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 1, 2024 7:07:16 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: On 02/07/2024 00:54, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: If you switch hats for a moment: have you any advice for upstream in this situat

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 1, 2024 7:07:16 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > On 02/07/2024 00:54, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > >> If you switch hats for a moment: have you any advice for upstream in > >> this situation? > > > > 8763.5.10 > > Yes, I have ha

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 00:54, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: If you switch hats for a moment: have you any advice for upstream in this situation? 8763.5.10 Yes, I have had a similar idea using 1 instead of 8763 to make it stand out less. In m

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > On 02/07/2024 00:31, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > HI again > > > On July 1, 2024 10:18:07 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: > >> But here the situation is that upstream do care and wants to fix it. But > >> they need our help (an epoch) to acco

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 00:31, Scott Kitterman wrote: HI again On July 1, 2024 10:18:07 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: But here the situation is that upstream do care and wants to fix it. But they need our help (an epoch) to accomplish this to handle the legacy. We could be helpful, or not. Why not giv

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 1, 2024 10:18:07 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: >On 02/07/2024 00:10, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >Hi Scott, > >> Upstream can change the versioning however they want. They are upstream. If >> they don't care to fix it, then I think we assume they are fine with it and >> leave it as is. > >

Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 00:10, Scott Kitterman wrote: Hi Scott, Upstream can change the versioning however they want. They are upstream. If they don't care to fix it, then I think we assume they are fine with it and leave it as is. But here the situation is that upstream do care and wants to fix it.

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
on problems sounds quite > > wrong. We don't even add epochs that Ubuntu itself adds. > > But this is not about third parties, it's about upstream which publishes > PPA packages. So far these are by far the most used Linux packages. > > I also hesitate to add an epoch

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
version problems sounds quite wrong. We don't even add epochs that Ubuntu itself adds. But this is not about third parties, it's about upstream which publishes PPA packages. So far these are by far the most used Linux packages. I also hesitate to add an epoch, after all they are basically

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 09:46:11PM +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 01/07/2024 20:48, Alec Leamas wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > Still working with the opencpn package. Now trying to normalize the > > Ubuntu PPA builds so they can are based on the same debian/ directory &g

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
On 01/07/2024 20:48, Alec Leamas wrote: Dear list, Still working with the opencpn package. Now trying to normalize the Ubuntu PPA builds so they can are based on the same debian/ directory and tools as the existing Debian opencpn package. opencpn is currently in a beta phase targeting a

Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Alec Leamas
Dear list, Still working with the opencpn package. Now trying to normalize the Ubuntu PPA builds so they can are based on the same debian/ directory and tools as the existing Debian opencpn package. opencpn is currently in a beta phase targeting a 5.10.1 release. The beta versions are like

Bug#1070719: ITP: ppa-dev-tools -- command line client for managing PPAs in Launchpad

2024-05-07 Thread Benjamin Drung
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Drung X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, bdr...@debian.org * Package name: ppa-dev-tools Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Contact: Bryce Harrington * URL : https://launchpad.net/ppa-dev-tools * License : GPL

Aw: Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-14 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, Von: "Steve McIntyre" An: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: DPA instead of PPA In article <518b7cf6.3080...@debian.org> you write: >>On 09/05/13 07:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >>> bikeshed \o/ >> >>You probably meant this to be a comment

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Packages > SPA = Special Package Archive Hi all, Fist of all, many thanks to Joerg and the FTP team to push this project forward. I find it exciting and innovative and I like that it is not simply reproducing Ubuntu's PPAs, but rather aims at providing a direct benefit to Debian's

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 May 2013, Steve McIntyre wrote: > In article <518b7cf6.3080...@debian.org> you write: > >On 09/05/13 07:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> bikeshed \o/ > > > >You probably meant this to be a comment on the discussion rather than a > >suggested name, but "until it gets uploaded to unstable,

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <518b7cf6.3080...@debian.org> you write: >On 09/05/13 07:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> bikeshed \o/ > >You probably meant this to be a comment on the discussion rather than a >suggested name, but "until it gets uploaded to unstable, you can get >GNOME 3.8 from the GNOME Team bikeshed" ac

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-05-09 22:55:33 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > And I seriously wished it wasn't the case, and that upstream > understood better what the distribution requirements are. [...] Actually, in this case (OpenStack) from what I've seen the upstream community understands the distribut

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 03:34 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > While there are certainly use cases that will stay in a PPA forever > (Thomas described one) And I seriously wished it wasn't the case, and that upstream understood better what the distribution requirements are. This should be considered

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
point is, if I had PPAs, I > > > wouldn't at all upload to SID and wait for a migration to > > > testing, because it would be better if the packages were > > > living in the PPA only (that would be a lot more flexible and > > > adapted to my use case). &

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Another opportunity these XPAs will bring, especially the ones that will be used for staging large transitions, is to run piuparts and related tests to discover (and fix) problems before they get introduced into unstable. Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Simon McVittie
On 09/05/13 07:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > bikeshed \o/ You probably meant this to be a comment on the discussion rather than a suggested name, but "until it gets uploaded to unstable, you can get GNOME 3.8 from the GNOME Team bikeshed" actually sounds like a reasonable sentence to write. :-) (O

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 04:12 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Providing backports doesn't free you from the burden of making sure > upgrades work. Thomas is facing a very large chunk of work to make sure > upgrades from the no-longer-supported E release to whatever might be in > jessie, since upstream breaks A

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
gt; To be fair, "Personal" is probably not relevant either. I expect many of > those repositories to be maintained by teams. > > DSPA = Debian Special Purpose Archive > DSPR = Debian Special Purpose Repository > DASP = Debian Archive of Special Packages > SPA = Special Packag

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
do that. >> Also, the rules in backports is that packages should be already migrated >> to testing. The point is, if I had PPAs, I wouldn't at all upload to SID >> and wait >> for a migration to testing, because it would be better if the packages were >> living in t

Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 08 May 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: > I actually really like this idea! (Though I suggest "Debian Personal > Archive".) > > It's really different from what people know as PPAs. To be fair, "Personal" is probably not relevant either. I expect many of those repositories to be maintained

DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 7. Mai 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > I think you may have misunderstood the Debian PPA proposal. It will > > not be like the Ubuntu PPA system where anyone can upload a package to > Call it DPA then? > Debianprojectmember Personal Archive I actually rea

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On 07/05/13 15:34, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Debian backports offers me *one* repository. I need 3 of them: >> - stable -1 (currently OpenStack Folsom) > > Ignore, is there any reason why an old version is interesting? Because Debian testing has

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
The point is, if I had PPAs, I wouldn't at all upload to SID > and wait > for a migration to testing, because it would be better if the packages were > living in the PPA only (that would be a lot more flexible and adapted to my > use case). I think that would be a bit sad and

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Wise debian.org> writes: > I think you may have misunderstood the Debian PPA proposal. It will > not be like the Ubuntu PPA system where anyone can upload a package to Call it DPA then? Debianprojectmember Personal Archive bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 03:11 PM, Brian May wrote: > On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand <mailto:z...@debian.org>> wrote: > > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. > Every 6 > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Brian May > On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. Every 6 > > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a > > new stable PPA. I could put all the backport software

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13204 March 1977, Adrian Alves wrote: > Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, Unless someone runs a GR, its not a vote. Im happy for changes/improvements, but it will come, so a "no" isn't the way. > Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Brian May
On 7 May 2013 17:03, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Now, if I had PPA, then I could follow upstream release cycles. Every 6 > months, I would destroy the PPA for OpenStack stable -2, and create a > new stable PPA. I could put all the backport software I need in there. > No need to worry a

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 12:23 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: > Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, > > Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in > one repo for stable testing or development, the use of PPA it couse > things like happens in ubuntu when u need something imp

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
> looking for something? YPPA in ubuntu has it own PPA u get my point? I think you may have misunderstood the Debian PPA proposal. It will not be like the Ubuntu PPA system where anyone can upload a package to Launchpad and have it autobuilt for multiple releases. I suggest that you

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Adrian Alves
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Brian May wrote: > On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote: > >> am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of >> debian who has everything in one place. >> > > This is already the case. Not everything I packag

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Brian May
On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves wrote: > am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of > debian who has everything in one place. > This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into Debian main. e.g. because it is specific to a problem I a

Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Adrian Alves
Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in one repo for stable testing or development, the use of PPA it couse things like happens in ubuntu when u need something important you need to install it from a PPA because is not in the repo

Debian PPA (was: Re: Bug#706605: ITP: macfanctld -- Fan control daemon for Apple MacBook computers)

2013-05-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 mai 2013 20:29 CEST, Pau Garcia i Quiles  : > This model has been working very well for me for years and users are happy. > Sadly, there are no Debian PPAs and I'm forced to use the OpenSuse Build > Service, which I don't really like (no dput, censored main archive, etc). I am also using OB

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 19:22]: > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > I guess I'm misunderstanding you here, so please help me out. If a > > > package is being worked on in different PPAs regarding different > > > problems (thinking of serializing

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 07:16:47PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 18:34]: > > On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: > > > > - APT entry

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jan Hauke Rahm (j...@debian.org) [110502 18:34]: > On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: > > > - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd can fetch > > > build-depe

Re: PPA

2011-05-02 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: > > - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd can fetch > > build-dependencies not satisfiable in the target suite) > > Why not

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Roger Leigh (rle...@codelibre.net) [110501 19:04]: > WRT the signing key, there would need to be some form of trust path > or else the signature would be worthless. If packages are being > uploaded to Debian infrastructure, and are under our control, can't > we use a single signing key? We pres

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:24:00PM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote: > I was thinking of a request that would include a base suite (e.g. > squeeze, wheezy, or sid), files to drop in /etc/apt/sources.list.d (and > /etc/apt/preferences.d), and the key used to sign unofficial > repositories. Of course, th

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
t; > > - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd can fetch > > > build-dependencies not satisfiable in the target suite) > > > > Why not just use one location - shouldn't be an issue unless you plan > > to have the same packages and version n

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [110501 18:23]: > > On Sun, 01 May 2011, Andreas Barth wrote: > > How can we submit jobs to a buildd? > > - APT entry to add (i.e. URL of the PPA so that the buildd

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stéphane Glondu (glo...@debian.org) [110501 18:24]: > Le 01/05/2011 17:16, Andreas Barth a écrit : > > Well yes, but how many autobuilding suites should we add? 50? 100? > > 200? How do we do key management so that we know that the autobuilder > > build the packages that they should? > > Why wou

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
ding (even if that happens this afternoon). It > > needs however done in a way where buildds only pick up source packages > > from one place, and upload to one place, independend whether the > > source package is mozilla, ocaml, or something else. > > Another aspect is that t

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 01/05/2011 17:16, Andreas Barth a écrit : >> I don't understand why this is only point 5. Setting up a custom >> repository easily usable is quite easy... and done already >> (mozilla.debian.net has been mentioned; I also happen to provide >> unofficial packages on ocaml.debian.net). > > It's e

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
way where buildds only pick up source packages > from one place, and upload to one place, independend whether the > source package is mozilla, ocaml, or something else. Another aspect is that the PPA in question must be activated in the buildd chroot so that build-dependencies can be solved in

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stéphane Glondu (glo...@debian.org) [110501 17:00]: > Le 01/05/2011 15:34, Andreas Barth a écrit : > > 1. How to push from a vcs (git, svn, ...) to ppa? (This should be > > coordinated with ftp-masters, so that the same method could be used > > later on for uploading into

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 01/05/2011 15:34, Andreas Barth a écrit : > 1. How to push from a vcs (git, svn, ...) to ppa? (This should be > coordinated with ftp-masters, so that the same method could be used > later on for uploading into unstable.) > > 2. How could we create new ppa repositories easy en

PPA (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Pierre Habouzit (madco...@madism.org) [110501 01:32]: > - link that PPA stuff to the main repository in a way that "merging" > PPA into unstable is just a matter of one single command, or a few. > > - make it easy for users to subscribe to PPAs, meaning you have t

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-30 Thread Jon Dowland
oint I was going to make before I read this para was, the problem with running a copy of LP is getting all those other services (bugs etc.) which we don't need - in fact, most likely, actively don't want, to avoid diluting our existing services. Would installing and maintaining a

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:17:22AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Actually, the proposed project [1] also included work on the dak side I read that as "dark side"... but the effect was just the same ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-23 Thread William Grant
al applications. And you wouldn't want or need to run all of Launchpad's services. > > It does require some changes to work with Debian's suites, but that > > would be far easier than reimplementing all the functionality yourself. > > Given the above, I str

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-23 Thread Roland Mas
t; would be far easier than reimplementing all the functionality yourself. Given the above, I strongly doubt that. Adding PPA-like functionality to FusionForge *might* be easier, since we already have Alioth, but even that would be a significant amount of work, if only to setup the build-daemons for that n

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
> would be far easier than reimplementing all the functionality yourself. This was discussed in the past already. Nothing "prevents" us to do that, but PPA is actually quite tied to Launchpad infrastructure which is significantly different than the Debian infrastructure which is m

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-23 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> I still believe that this can and should be implemented. If someone is > interested, I'm happy to help; I assume the same holds for Joerg. True. -- bye, Joerg Yeah, patching debian/rules sounds like changing shoes while running the 100 meters track. -- Michael Koch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-22 Thread William Grant
ome way to get random packages autobuilt > >>> would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want).>> > >> I seem to recall, ftpmaster was planning something like that. Or wanted to? > >> If so, what the status? If not, shall we start it? I think so. > > HE proposed

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Julien Cristau writes: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt >>> would already be helpful (call that ppa if you wa

Re: Debian ppa (was Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > > PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt > > would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want). > > I se

Debian ppa (was Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt > would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want). I seem to recall, ftpmaster was planning something like that. Or wanted to? If so, what the status? If not,