Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-14 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> Usually, when I get problems with xpdf on a PDF, it is a PDF > 1.5. Either it simply doesn't work, or very slowly, or text search > doesn't work in the PDF. Lionel, In my experience, the Xpdf upstream author is very responsive to bugs. If you provide him with a suitable test case, I have no dou

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:22:18PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > Usually, when I get problems with xpdf on a PDF, it is a PDF > 1.5. Either it simply doesn't work, or very slowly, or text search > doesn't work in the PDF. Please submit bug reports. I couldn't find any such reports at http://b

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-11 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:21:37AM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> I am strongly against compressing PDFs > To add insult to injury, PDF 1.5 introduces ``object streams'' which > allow compressing arbitrarily long chunks of a PDF file without > giving up the random-access properties of PDF. A

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-11 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> I am strongly against compressing PDFs To add insult to injury, PDF 1.5 introduces ``object streams'' which allow compressing arbitrarily long chunks of a PDF file without giving up the random-access properties of PDF. All current Free PDF readers grok PDF 1.5, although as far as I know no Free

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> > * Although there is a way to view pdf.gz without explicit decompression > > (use see or xzpdf) it is inconvenient for being used from firefox for > > instance (?) > Could you point us to a bug report ? firefox being a web browser is likely > to be used to download .pdf.gz files from non-D

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/10/06, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about improving transparent decompression somehow? well... unification via mailcap is nice, but as I mentioned before it would be trickier to make it work from firefox (it assumes all .gz files Good solutions aren't always trivial

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 01:15:54PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Dear Developers, > > I've raised this discussion at -mentors first [1] but I think it is worth > asking on a devel list since no definite decision was reached and I > could not find similar discussion in the archives. > > I've

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> On 5/9/06, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >* dh_compress doesn't compress some other files based on extension > > including .zip files. PDF (to my knowledge) uses zip internally to > > compress the document. So why PDF should be gzipped if .zip not? > Probably because .zip is com

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> In practice, the rules that say that work done by the government is >> automatically public domain... > Work done by US federal government employees on government time is > effectively public domain. This does _not_ apply to work

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread John Hasler
Russ Allbery writes: > In practice, the rules that say that work done by the government is > automatically public domain... Work done by US federal government employees on government time is effectively public domain. This does _not_ apply to work done by state or local government employees. It

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Frank Küster
Please, this time, obey the Followup-to to debian-legal. Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I do not want to argue, Yes. Please. Please do not argue before you've read the discussions we already had on this. I don't expect you to find any relevant new points. > and your com

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As for the public domain, I thought I was on solid ground because work > made by public servants in the USA is automatically public domain. > However, I realised that the Standford university where the software has > been released is private (correct me

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, dear Frank, If it was the intention of the general resolution you are reffering to that any document which has been created by automatic processing of another document could not be distributed without its "source", it is rather unfortunate that it refers to the DFSG, which explicitely us

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, If you want to discuss this further, please move the discussion to -legal; you can ask to get Cc's if you aren't subscribed there. Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:21:58AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote : >> * Frank Küster: >> >> > Most PDF files in Debia

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Charles Plessy
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:21:58AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote : > * Frank Küster: > > > Most PDF files in Debian are already compressed; at least those > > which are generated on a Debian system, and somehow TeX is involved > > are. > > And those which haven't been rebuilt could well be non-f

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Frank Küster: > Most PDF files in Debian are already compressed; at least those > which are generated on a Debian system, and somehow TeX is involved > are. And those which haven't been rebuilt could well be non-free anyway (because we lack the source code). 8->

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Frank Küster wrote: Martin Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about compressing all generated pdf with eg pdftk instead of gzip? That would save on space without troubling potential readers. Most PDF files in Debian are already compressed; at least those which are gene

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/9/06, Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * dh_compress doesn't compress some other files based on extension including .zip files. PDF (to my knowledge) uses zip internally to compress the document. So why PDF should be gzipped if .zip not? Probably because .zip is compressed b

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-09 Thread Frank Küster
Martin Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-09 20:05]: > >> #include >> * Yaroslav Halchenko [Tue, May 09 2006, 01:15:54PM]: >> > Dear Developers, >> > >> > I've raised this discussion at -mentors first [1] but I think it is worth >> > asking on a dev

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-09 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-09 20:05]: > #include > * Yaroslav Halchenko [Tue, May 09 2006, 01:15:54PM]: > > Dear Developers, > > > > I've raised this discussion at -mentors first [1] but I think it is worth > > asking on a devel list since no definite decision was reached and I

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Yaroslav Halchenko [Tue, May 09 2006, 01:15:54PM]: > Dear Developers, > > I've raised this discussion at -mentors first [1] but I think it is worth > asking on a devel list since no definite decision was reached and I > could not find similar discussion in the archives. I am strongly

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-09 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Dear Developers, I've raised this discussion at -mentors first [1] but I think it is worth asking on a devel list since no definite decision was reached and I could not find similar discussion in the archives. I've got annoyed enough by compressed pdf.gz in -doc packages that I decided to check i