Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-14 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:15:54AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That being said, sources which just sprout new binary packages >> really should be passed through NEW automagically. > I made a foolish mistake not too long ago that would never

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That being said, sources which just sprout new binary packages really > should be passed through NEW automagically. I made a foolish mistake not too long ago that would never have been caught by this mechanism; I was most grateful for Anthony Towns w

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Matthias Urlichs | Hi, Adrian von Bidder wrote: | | > In that light, fully automatic NEW processing will not hurt at all | | Umm... | - Submit package with copyrighted stuff | - wait a few days | - watch the pants being sued off SPI/Debian | | Likely? I don't know. Too dangerous? IMHO yes.

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > In that light, fully automatic NEW processing will not hurt at all Umm... - Submit package with copyrighted stuff - wait a few days - watch the pants being sued off SPI/Debian Likely? I don't know. Too dangerous? IMHO yes. That being said, sources which just sprou

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-09 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:50:05PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > In that light, fully automatic NEW processing will not hurt at all (I agree > > that a delay of a few days is sensible to give us time to react to the > > worst problem cases.) > > Unfortunately reality isn't so simple. In prac

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 06.39, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There is another problem with NEW: The US laws. > > Untill a package has been processed through NEW and a mail send to > some goverment agency Debian runs risk of violating the crypto export > laws. I've already proposed this: if si

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: >> IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. >> ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative >> function: keep the archive ru

Re: Not every package should enter Debian

2005-03-08 Thread Julien BLACHE
Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wanted: a policy document that draws the lines (there will always be grey > areas, yes. But they can be made smaller than they are right now), with > processes that ensure that handling critical cases does not take 2 months > or more. Yay for mor

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold?

2005-03-08 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Maybe new versions of packages already in the archive that depend upon packages which are NEW could somehow signal or automatically raise the priority of those said packages waiting to get in. I guess it's a common case, specially for new libraries, since it can potentially hold important new f

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:50:05PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. > > ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative > > functi

Re: Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 07:42:58PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > IMHO, Debian has a serious double-problem here and needs to attack it. > ftp-masters should, as I understand the role, be a purely administrative > function: keep the archive running. No policy decisions should be made by > f

Not every package should enter Debian (was: Re: Who cares about NEW when there are bigger issues? (was Re: Is NEW processing on hold? (was: Question for candidate Towns)))

2005-03-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
k again to > the pointless hot-babe discussion which drills to "should Debian be a > software repository of every free software project written on earth, > regardless of its state and value?" Risking another hot-babesque thread... -> not every package should enter D