Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-15 Thread aw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Ok... Just some comments. I just got some crude debian autoinstall mechanism running for my organisation, which does a dpkg -install from a perl expect script, which scans the output of dpkg for keywords which it reacts to. I would have liked a more beautiful ap

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-04 Thread Jens Ritter
Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A good way to start would be to seperate the unpacking and > installation from the configuration. > > dpkg should start one thread to extract a package, when a package is > done a second threat is signaled and the next is extracted. > > The second thread c

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-04 Thread Raul Miller
Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dpkg should start one thread to extract a package, when a package is > done a second threat is signaled and the next is extracted. > > The second thread configures the package. If any question is to be > asked, the controll is given to a third threat and the

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-04 Thread Brederlow
Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > Andreas> I'd like to integrate more of the bookkeeping tasks into the > > Andreas> debian system, like being able to display a list of > > Andreas> warnings/errors after installation is finishe

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-04 Thread Brederlow
Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Drake> On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >> > > >> What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured > > >> state? > > > > Drake>It's a reminder

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-04 Thread Raul Miller
Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you take a static list of questions for a package, you have to > answer _all_ questions, even if in the postinst many questions are > conditionally asked depending on the answers to other questions or the > state of the system No. You have to allow s

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Andreas Degert
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Drake> On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [...] > > > I prefer the approach to ask questions first, and configure as > > >

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Andreas Degert
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Why can't you ask all the questions first? I am too thnking of > the kernel image package. I can easily design a framework that > gathers all the data a priori -- and yes, you have a point; > Andreas> because the questions depend on th

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Steve Dunham
Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Drake> On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >> > > >> What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured > > >> state? > > Drake>It's a reminder to me t

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Andreas" == Andreas Degert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I prefer the approach to ask questions first, and configure as >> it installs. If we are spending time to do this, we should do this >> right. Andreas> In general, you can'

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Andreas Degert
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Drake> On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > >> What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured > >> state? > > Drake>It's a reminder to me that I need to configure this package still. > >

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Drake" == Drake Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Drake> On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured >> state? Drake>It's a reminder to me that I need to configure this package still.

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Drake Diedrich
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 09:48:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured > state? It's a reminder to me that I need to configure this package still. > This shall certainly play havoc with large scale upgrades, > when latter pack

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, A short while ago, Ian proposed a specification for an "Automatic query servicing for dpkg installation scripts". I thought that the spec was very well thought out, and really, the best bet for Debian were we to put in serious work on the project. (Unfortunately, some of th

Re: Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, What is the benefit of keeping packages in an unconfigured state? This shall certainly play havoc with large scale upgrades, when latter packages require earlier packages to be configured. To be absolutely certain, you may, in the worst case, have to set up and configure packages o

Non-interactive install proposal

1998-06-03 Thread Drake Diedrich
I was reading an rpm vs. dpkg, interactive vs non-interactive thread on debian-private (?) when I had the following idea. What happens to a typical postinst script if you kill it when it tries to read from stdin? apt, dselect, or dpkg could have a non-interactive mode. When attempting to