Re: NoX idea

2005-03-05 Thread Sven Mueller
Henning Makholm wrote on 05/03/2005 12:17: Scripsit Benjamin Mesing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB recommendation LSB recommends: 0 halt 1 single user mode 2 multiuser with no network services exported 3 normal/full multiu

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Benjamin Mesing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB recommendation > LSB recommends: > 0 halt > 1 single user mode > 2 multiuser with no network services exported > 3 normal/full multiuser > 4 reserved for local use,

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Can we assume your systems are all Linux-based Debian? Frankly I dont care about others, yes. I mean it is OK to use portable interfaces where present, I just dont think this works in all cases. In that specific case of course runlevel is already a gen

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:31:06PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in > > > question > > > Hm? it is on all my systems:

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> see > http://www.linuxbase.org/modules.php?name=specrev&url=http://www.linuxbase.org/spec//booksets/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/set1.html > for what the LSB has to say about the subject So its seems SuSE was following LSB recommendations. Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB reco

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 04 March 2005 10:22, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other > > distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up > > to the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this > > but its not true curren

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other > distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up to > the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this but > its not true currently. Sorry, consider me spoiled by SuSE which I am forced to

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:04:21AM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you > > install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can > > disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of hav

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you > install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can > disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of having > to erase the links in rc2.d. Acutally there should be no link in ru

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Hampson
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in > > question > Hm? it is on all my systems: > # cat /proc/cmdline > auto BOOT_IMAGE=v2.6.8.1 ro root=811 Can we ass

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in > question Hm? it is on all my systems: # cat /proc/cmdline auto BOOT_IMAGE=v2.6.8.1 ro root=811 Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:14:06PM -0800, Robert Carboneau wrote: > Joel Aelwyn wrote: > >It also looks like /proc/self/cmdline is more universal, if anyone did > >need to do something of the sort. > > But that's just the process's command line, isn't it? I thought they > were looking for the ker

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Robert Carboneau
Joel Aelwyn wrote: It also looks like /proc/self/cmdline is more universal, if anyone did need to do something of the sort. But that's just the process's command line, isn't it? I thought they were looking for the kernel command line. -- Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:36:46PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline > and grep for nox? > > I have the need some times to start a laptop with con

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:09:00AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode > > what about runlevel 2? :) Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you install kdm (or so

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-05, 07:55 (CST), Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be nice for occasional no-X booting, e.g. for debugging. But > then there's still single user mode for that, so "wasting" a whole > runlevel for it doesn't seem so useful. The "nox" boot parameter seems > much less int

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > Easy enough for me in my system. It would be nice to have a standard way > of telling the system to not start X on any Debian system while keeping > X start up being the default without the

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tim Cutts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2 Mar 2005, at 2:58 pm, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 às 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say "don't start X", too, although most times I do w

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
[No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 Ãs 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: > > I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say "don't start X", > > too, although most times I do want it to run. > > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? Easy enough for me in

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:45:26PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > > Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead > or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Read th

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Olaf Conradi
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:53:30 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Christoph Berg > > | Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > | > | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead > | or else they w

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Sean Perry in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > >kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from > >/proc/cmdline > >and grep for nox? Would be neat :) > Should be easy for you to do locally and since the init

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christoph Berg | Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? | | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead | or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Removing just a single link is fine. They will only

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ signature.asc Descriptio

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Ken Bloom
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:36:46 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from > /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? > > I have the need some times to start a laptop with console

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 09:06:41PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Em Ter, 2005-03-01 às 23:36 +0100, Jesus Climent escreveu: > > What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > > kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from > > /proc/cmdline

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode what about runlevel 2? :) Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Ter, 2005-03-01 Ãs 23:36 +0100, Jesus Climent escreveu: > What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline > and grep for nox? > > I have the need some times to start a laptop with console

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Sean Perry
Jesus Climent wrote: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode, and it would be nice to just add an append

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:36:46PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: > What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline > and grep for nox? > > I have the need some times to start a laptop with con

NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Jesus Climent
What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode, and it would be nice to just add an append to the kernel comma