Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-28 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On måndagen den 24 december 2007, David Paleino wrote: > Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:25:43 + > Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:51:13 +0100 > > David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi *, > > > would it be possible to have a "License" field in

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Dec 25, 2007 at 11:47:59AM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > What about debtags? Wouldn't this be most appropriate? > - It's optional. > - It's available from the apt-cache. > - No need to change dpkg, policy, etc. Please see http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faq.html#any-reason-why-ther

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 06:52:12PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > Anyway, I'm seeing that what I'm telling now has already been proposed for > debian/copyright. The problem is still there though: the chance to see some > information about the license of not installed packages not being > connected

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 06:39:22PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Maybe the related question is: once the debian/copyright format is > widespread enough, how can we make such an information available > archive-wide mechanically? Easy: apt-xapian-index. It works like this: 1. Define what ki

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 06:52:12PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > First of all, thank you for the kind reply. It seemed like the > Christmas spirit has been blown away from this list. Thank you for noticing, I still hope that exchanges like this have the power of improving in the long run the debat

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:47:59 +0100 Michael Tautschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > What about debtags? Wouldn't this be most appropriate? > - It's optional. > - It's available from the apt-cache. > - No need to change dpkg, policy, etc. This might be a solution. Something like license

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-25 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > > I understand your need, but in this case (as opposed to the others you > > mention) I believe a new field is not the right solution. The reason is > > that in the general case too many information would need to be encoded > > in such a field; that's why a machine interpretable copyright

Re: machine readable copyright file (was: New field in binary stanza)

2007-12-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Neil, * Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-24 22:52]: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:27:53 +0100 > Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-24 22:03]: > > > A machine-interpretable format for debian/copyright is already > > > available. > > > > Wh

Re: machine readable copyright file (was: New field in binary stanza)

2007-12-24 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:27:53 +0100 Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-24 22:03]: > > A machine-interpretable format for debian/copyright is already > > available. > > Where? http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat -- Neil Williams ===

machine readable copyright file (was: New field in binary stanza)

2007-12-24 Thread Nico Golde
* Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-24 22:03]: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:51:13 +0100 > David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > > package? > > Why? What is the benefit? > > A machine-interpretable format for

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Russ Allbery
David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > package? I mean, "apt-cache show foo" shows the fields defined in > debian/control and some others. Would it be possible to parse the > license from debian/copyright and add it to

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:43:57 +0100 David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From a user perspective, there is no difference between any package in > > main as far as a licence is concerned. > > It's not for users, it's for developers. But you cannot separate the content of the Packages.gz fi

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:51:13PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > > package? First of all, thank you for the kind reply. It seem

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:37:23 + Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:36:06 +0100 > David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > From a user perspective, there is no difference between any package in > main as far as a licence is concerned. It'

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:51:13PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > package? I understand your need, but in this case (as opposed to the others you mention) I believe a new field is not the right solution. The reason is that in

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:36:06 +0100 David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A machine-interpretable format for debian/copyright is already > > available. Why clutter the dpkg and apt-cache with licence lines? > > debian/copyright is not available via the APT cache, thus cannot be available >

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:10:38 -0600 "Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Dec 24, 2007 11:07 AM, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the license is free, but it's not a "standard" one, one could always > > write: > > > > License: see debian/copyright.

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney
On Dec 24, 2007 11:07 AM, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the license is free, but it's not a "standard" one, one could always write: > > License: see debian/copyright. > David That seems unnecessary, being the effective default. Daniel Brumbaugh Keeney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:03:39 +0100 Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 16:51:13 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > > Hi *, > > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > > package? I mean, "apt-cache show foo" shows the fields

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 16:51:13 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > Hi *, > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > package? > I mean, "apt-cache show foo" shows the fields defined in debian/control and > some others. Would it be possible to parse the license from debi

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:25:43 + Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:51:13 +0100 > David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi *, > > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > > package? > > Why? What is the benefit

Re: New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:51:13 +0100 David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi *, > would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a > package? Why? What is the benefit? A machine-interpretable format for debian/copyright is already available. Why clutter the dpkg and ap

New field in binary stanza

2007-12-24 Thread David Paleino
Hi *, would it be possible to have a "License" field in the information of a package? I mean, "apt-cache show foo" shows the fields defined in debian/control and some others. Would it be possible to parse the license from debian/copyright and add it to that info? Or, at least, give the chance to de