Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-25 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:19:33PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > * Jonathan Dowland [2016-06-24 09:24 +0100]: > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > > > > > I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A Debian IT

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Jonathan Dowland [2016-06-24 09:24 +0100]: > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for > > > Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Jonathan Dowland [2016-06-24 09:24 +0100]: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for > > Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1]. > snip > > > > I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A D

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Muri Nicanor
hi On 06/24/2016 05:32 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:59:00PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> * Holger Levsen , 2016-06-24, 09:05: I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. >>> I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say >>> tha

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Adam Borowski , 2016-06-24, 17:32: I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I know it's from the authors initials, but… to me it sounds like "mutt-hitler" or probably worse. Send complaints to Karel's parents... Eve

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:59:00PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Holger Levsen , 2016-06-24, 09:05: > >>I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. > >I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say > >that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I know it's fr

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Holger Levsen , 2016-06-24, 09:05: I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I know it's from the authors initials, but… to me it sounds like "mutt-hitler" or

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 07:33:40AM -0300, Tiago Ilieve wrote: > His package is in the archive for over two years[3] and > looks like no one felt offended enough to fill a bug before. I only noticed mutt-kz three months ago… And I'd also be fine with a rename to mutt-karel or mutt-karel-zak. -

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Tiago Ilieve
Holger, On 24 June 2016 at 06:05, Holger Levsen wrote: > I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say > that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I know it's from the authors > initials, but… to me it sounds like "mutt-hitler" or probably worse. Wait... What? So are

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:05:16AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > And I don't think this is a german thing (well…) - the term "KZ" is > known by millions of non german speaking people, cause their loved ones > suffered and died there. s#non german speaking people#non german speaking and german spea

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Victor, On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:30:16AM +0200, Víctor M. Jáquez L. wrote: > I'm sorry, I didn't know. Thanks. > The name comes from the main author of the project: Karel Zak. [...] > Independently of the badly chosen name, I accepted to deprecate mutt-kz in > favor or neomutt. wow, very coo

Re: mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Víctor M . Jáquez L .
On 06/24/16 at 09:05am, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 08:44:18AM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. > > I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say > that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I kn

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Ian Jackson writes: > I don't think there is anything wrong with having a competing package. There is. I'm fairly sure the security team will not be happy... Packaging the *same* project twice seems even more useless busy work for them than packaging lots of forks of the same project (which some p

mutt concentration camp (was Re: Neomutt packages available)

2016-06-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 08:44:18AM +, Clint Adams wrote: > I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. I have no idea what you are referring to here, but it reminds me to say that I think the name "mutt-kz" is a NO-GO. I know it's from the authors initials, but… to me it sounds

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Clint Adams , 2016-06-24, 08:44: I am suggesting that I remember what happened with mutt-kz. What happened with mutt-kz? -- Jakub Wilk

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Clint Adams writes ("Re: Neomutt packages available"): > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:41:38AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > You seem to be either suggesting that the mutt people should be prevented > > from > > their pre-existing plan to move to neomutt

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Clint Adams
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:41:38AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > You seem to be either suggesting that the mutt people should be prevented from > their pre-existing plan to move to neomutt, or we should have two neomutt > packages in Debian at the same time. I am suggesting that I remember what

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Clint Adams writes ("Re: Neomutt packages available"): > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:24:27AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Rather than work with the existing team Elimar has persisted with > > efforts to package neomutt separately and has even suggested a *differe

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 08:30:22AM +, Clint Adams wrote: > Territorial bullshit. You seem to be either suggesting that the mutt people should be prevented from their pre-existing plan to move to neomutt, or we should have two neomutt packages in Debian at the same time. -- Jonathan Dowland P

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Clint Adams
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:24:27AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Rather than work with the existing team Elimar has persisted with > efforts to package neomutt separately and has even suggested a *different* > team is set up to maintain neomutt, versus pkg-mutt. Good. > A fork by any other nam

Re: Neomutt packages available

2016-06-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for > Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1]. snip > > I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A Debian ITP [2] is filed. > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-b

Neomutt packages available

2016-06-23 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all, I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1]. I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A Debian ITP [2] is filed. The binaries are build in a sid environment. The sources are fetched from [3]. The neomutt branch is used.