Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And an updated version is at > > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/GnuPG-Mini-HOWTO > > I've asked bma to submit this as a bug developers-reference for > inclusion in that document? Do you agree that it should be adapted t

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And an updated version is at > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/GnuPG-Mini-HOWTO I've asked bma to submit this as a bug developers-reference for inclusion in that document? Do you agree that it should be adapted to the Developer's Reference so it c

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > All it means is that GPG should be used in a mode where it will not > > > interoperate with PGP 2.x. This is what Joey's HOWTO recommended more or > > > less. > > > > So correct it. > > You seem to want to give it away rather strongly, so I'd be happy to pick > it up

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Martin Schulze
James Troup wrote: > Eh, calm down, Joey. I not only can, but should and have decided that > GnuPG keys must be verified before they enter the keyring, i.e. I'm > not going to add a random key from a random developer without proof it > comes from that developer. I'll hope you'll be so kind as to

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:55 -0400 1999-09-15, Chris Fearnley wrote: How does one generate an RSA key using the gpg-rsaref package? Why on earth would you want to do that? -- Joel Klecker (aka Espy)Debian GNU/Linux Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http:/

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:38:34PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I signed my DSS key with the old RSA key and then asked people who > signed the old key to sign the new one with their DSS key. > This is easy and secure. Not if you didn't ask in person... -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Julian Gilbey
> > That higher level of confidence would be misplaced if I'd simply > > mailed my key to all my old PGP signers, and they'd signed it. > > Sorry, I don't get this. Why is it a problem if one of my old signers signs > my new key if I send it to them in a mail signed by my old key? Lots of others

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:14:42AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > 8) Participants of 'signing parties' are encouraged to use OpenPGP keys > (remember that a PGP 2.x key cannot be signed by an OpenPGP key > [AFIAK]) I've got PGP keys with GPG sigs on them... Granted PGP can't even se

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:13:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > To help give another example of settings, here's what I have in my > > ~/.gnupg/options: > > > # Screw PGP, let's be RFC compatible => > > openpgp > [.. snip snip ..] > > > > ## Other fun options >

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Chris Fearnley wrote: > How does one generate an RSA key using the gpg-rsaref package? It isn't possible. The gpg-rsaref does not have key generation code included. Also, AFAIK gpg does not have an option to generate a PGP 2.x key - it only creates OpenPGP keys. > How does

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: > > > > I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have > > Is the "pathetic" part the reason why you don't have any? :-) Ah, I'd not updated my key in the keyring since I joined. Well no

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How do you prove to whoever is able to erase the package that you > are who you say you are? I.e. how do you convince them that they > should in fact erase the package? You do that by sending them a message signed with a new key, that you have had sign

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Martin Uecker
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:19:34PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: [...] > > With dinstall a compromise is short lived and can be undone by erasing the > > effected package. Creating a new key and getting people to sign it cannot > > really be undone. > > How do you prove to whoever is able to erase

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Chris Fearnley
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:43:21PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > How to switch to GnuPG for developers..a very brief mini-HOWTO > -- Very nice mini-HOWTO. But I still have several questions: How does one generate an RSA key using the gp

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Gabor Fleischer
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Paul Slootman wrote: > I'm sure that most people don't check with the central key servers > every time they check a signature. > How should I do this? Is it automated? Can pine/mutt do it while I'm online? Flocsy URL: http://flocsy.spedia.net MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 14, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I signed my DSS key with the old RSA key and then asked people who >> signed the old key to sign the new one with their DSS key. >> This is easy and secure. >Again, no it isn't. How do they know that someone didn't steal your pgp >key?

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Gabor Fleischer
On 14 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: > Obviously, if we're life-long friends, and I send you a new key signed > with my old key, and then you phone me up and establish that I really > did send it to you, and that your pretty certain that it is me on that > answered the phone, then a face to face me

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: > > I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have Is the "pathetic" part the reason why you don't have any? :-) Paul Slootman -- home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wurtel.demon.nl/ work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On 14 Sep 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >Again, no it isn't. How do they know that someone didn't steal your pgp > >key?=20 > > > How is this different from the question ``How does dinstall (or othe

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:01:18PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > I think his point is that if you can't trust a pgp signature to > sign a gpg key, why should trust a pgp signature to do anything > at all, e.g. accept an uploaded package. Seems like a reasonable > argument. Because the real user c

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:55:39PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Michael Stone wrote: > > > Not really. What if the pgp key is compromised? The original owner can > > > release a revocation certificate for the pgp key, but if someone creates > > > a new

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:21:22AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > Are you saying that people should sign keys received via e-mail, > > rather than face to face ? > > > > If so, I'm strongly against this. > > Why? I'd have hoped that that was clear by