Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 09:45:53AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck > > > for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will > > > use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. > > They mentioned earlier

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Santiago Vila
El 17/4/25 a las 9:21, Paul Gevers escribió: Hi, On 16-04-2025 19:59, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. They mentio

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-17 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 16-04-2025 19:59, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build, I think it would help. I don't think anybody will use that as an excuse to file more RC bugs. They mentioned earlier on IRC that they'll do just that

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Simon wrote: it would be better if future bug reporting for this scenario didn't encourage maintainers to implement nocheck incorrectly. You are absolutely right and I apologize for my mistake. Not just future but also *present*, so I've now added a clarification note to all the bugs I reported

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 at 19:59:47 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: I wish reproducible-builds people would activate DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck for the second build https://bugs.debian.org/786644 smcv

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 16/4/25 a las 18:52, Simon McVittie escribió: the bug template should be more like     The contents of the resulting package are meant to be identical to     the package produced by a normal build, but this was not checked     during this particular mass-rebuild or something along those l

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 at 18:40:00 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: In one of the reports I read this: """ * When a package is built with the nocheck profile, it means: - DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck (the tests should be skipped during the build) - DEB_BUILD_PROFILES=nocheck (Build-Depends marked are not

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Santiago, On 16-04-2025 15:04, Santiago Vila wrote: For reference, I've used this usertag for all the bugs (26 new and 3 old): https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=debian- q...@lists.debian.org;tag=ftbfs-nocheck-profile In one of the reports I read this: """ * When a packa

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-16 Thread Santiago Vila
El 13/4/25 a las 15:22, Simon McVittie escribió: I think there are two subtly different things that you could mean by "with nocheck": 1. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck, but no special build profiles     - therefore build-dependencies are still installed 2. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck DEB_BUILD_PROFI

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 13-04-2025 17:12, Helmut Grohne wrote: That said, Emilio explicitly asked them not to be filed as rc on irc. That feels like RT is not internally consistent here. How about filing them as rc now and tagging them trixie-ignore later if we deem the effort too big? What I think he means,

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Santiago, On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 01:22:21PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > After building all the archive (trixie/sid) with nocheck, I only found 33 new > packages which fail to build with nocheck that were not reported before. > Admittedly > a little bit more than I expected, but certainly no

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Santiago Vila
El 13/4/25 a las 15:22, Simon McVittie escribió: On a personal note, I consider those bugs interesting to fix because I think there should be a safe procedure to build all packages in the archive in a way which minimizes build failures as much as possible. If that's what you want, I think sce

Re: MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 at 13:22:21 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: After building all the archive (trixie/sid) with nocheck, I only found 33 new packages which fail to build with nocheck that were not reported before. Admittedly a little bit more than I expected, but certainly not "hundreds" as some pe

MBF: Packages which break with nocheck

2025-04-13 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. After building all the archive (trixie/sid) with nocheck, I only found 33 new packages which fail to build with nocheck that were not reported before. Admittedly a little bit more than I expected, but certainly not "hundreds" as some people feared. (The main reason there are not so many