Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
David Paleino writes: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:36:07 +0100 (CET), Andreas Tille wrote: >> and at the same time fix all packages that only have a menu but no >> desktop file." > This could easily be added as a lintian check, I believe. FWIW, the reason why Lintian doesn't have such a check is be

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Tille wrote: > This discussion comes up once or twice per year. In most cases it is > triggered by users of freedesktop.org based environments. They fail to > see the fact that there are other environments which do not support > freedesktop.

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:13:31 +, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Thu Feb 26 12:57, David Paleino wrote: > > > You will never manage to "force" upstream authors of different > > > environments to support freedesktop.org standard because you have no > > > handle to force anybody in Free Software. > >

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez may or may not have written... [snip] > I don't think removing Debian menu is a good idea, as many people are still > using it, but when you're using a freedesktop.org environment, this menu is > really ugly, useless and duplicating entries. There are som

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Feb 26 12:57, David Paleino wrote: > > You will never manage to "force" upstream authors of different environments > > to support freedesktop.org standard because you have no handle to force > > anybody in Free Software. > > Sure you can't, but standards exist for this reason. And sane upst

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:02:29PM +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> I am considering starting a discussion within the KDE team to stop >> supporting the Debian Menu. >> >> It becomes more and more useless - and it is also very ugly, as the menu >> itsel

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:36:07 +0100 (CET), Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, David Paleino wrote: > > > What about making all environments out there support the freedesktop.org > > standard instead? > > The situation is different. It is not that all environments support > Debian menu b

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, David Paleino wrote: What about making all environments out there support the freedesktop.org standard instead? The situation is different. It is not that all environments support Debian menu but many of them invented their own menu system. The Debian Menu system just pr

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 11:12 +, Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : > The "Settings" top menu is now mostly unusable, as it is one long list that > includes both KDE and GNOME settings. And it will, as long as the KDE maintainers don’t fix their broken .desktop entries to add the missing OnlyShowIn en

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:12:25 +0100, José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > 2009/2/26 Andreas Tille > > > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > > > I am considering starting a discussion within the KDE team to stop > >> supporting the Debian Menu. > >> > >> It becomes more and more useless

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:14:34AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-02-26, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > --Sig_/b/o0j06x1Maj8m.BfPK65gn > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a b

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez
2009/2/26 Andreas Tille > On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > I am considering starting a discussion within the KDE team to stop >> supporting the Debian Menu. >> >> It becomes more and more useless - and it is also very ugly, as the menu >> itself specifies icons that are nonexistant i

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: I am considering starting a discussion within the KDE team to stop supporting the Debian Menu. It becomes more and more useless - and it is also very ugly, as the menu itself specifies icons that are nonexistant in all icon themes. This discussion come

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-02-26, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > --Sig_/b/o0j06x1Maj8m.BfPK65gn > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will > need fixing ASAP? AIUI packages that have a GUI are requir

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will > need fixing ASAP?  AIUI packages that have a GUI are required to have > debian menu, but I'm not sure if the window manager / desktop has the > same requirement. The

LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will need fixing ASAP? AIUI packages that have a GUI are required to have debian menu, but I'm not sure if the window manager / desktop has the same requirement. -- And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way ea