Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/10/07 at 01:28 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 06:05:39PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > wnpp-alert may be useful to you - it will tell you if any of your > > packages are nominated for adoption or are orphaned. > > > I guess maybe this package can be added to the deb-a-

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 06:05:39PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:33:41PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > > At current, this

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Raphael Geissert
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 08:46:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing >> > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 08:46:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing > > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive is old and > > deprecated. > >

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 12/10/2007 Raphael Geissert wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > > At current, this is going to be noted on -devel. > > > > I would like a message o

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive is old and > deprecated. I think you are on a wrong track here. It might be an example of a poorly mai

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:33:41PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > At current, this is going to be noted on -devel. > > I would like a message on the user

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 02:37:50AM +, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Steve Greenland wrote: > > > On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Proposed workflow > >> - > >> Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a > >> scor

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Proposed workflow >> - >> Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a >> scoring system: >> - popcon score > > You might need to be a little careful with this

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Raphael Geissert
Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained >> or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both >> cases, because they are often related. (useless

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Steve Greenland
On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposed workflow > - > Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a > scoring system: > - popcon score You might need to be a little careful with this one. A package can be quite useful

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
All'incirca Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:13:11 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sembrerebbe aver scritto: > I think that the following makes sense: > - For packages where orphaning was proposed: 50 days > - For packages where removal was proposed: 100 days I am not a DD, so my opinion is not ver

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Michael Biebl dies 12/10/2007 hora 15:06: > > - For packages where orphaning was proposed: 50 days > > - For packages where removal was proposed: 100 days > As sune suggested, 1 and 2 months would be enough imo. As a compromise, the delay to orphan a package could be set to 1 month when th

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Lucas Nussbaum schrieb: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly > maintained, and vice-versa). I whole

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Some additional info might also be useful: >> - age of last upload >> - WNPP status (O, RFH, RFA) (for how long?) >> - Maintainer's MIA status >> - number of packages maintained by the maintainer >> - number of maintainers fo

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 09:13 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly > ma

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 07:13:11AM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-10-12, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] full ack to whatever you wrote here - and thank you for your nice work with this. > It's important to decide on reasonable delays. > - If the procedure takes too long, it will be discouraging I think that your proposed "times" falls

Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly maintained, and vice-versa). [I originally planned to discuss this durin