Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Wookey wrote: > I'm not quite sure who actually controls these things That would be the stable release team, the processes for uploads to stable are documented here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable -- bye, pabs ht

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Wookey
+++ Manoj Srivastava [2014-05-10 23:00 -0700]: > > <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> > On Sun, May 11 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted > > to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so* > > far down the

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, May 14 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: >> I know I can't do that until Jess is released and dpkg 1.17.2 is >> in stable. > > Is it acceptable to put off providing a guile-enabled make.deb until > jessie+1 ? Talking to various people I was convinced I was overthinking this, an

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:16:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"): >> Russ Allbery wrote: >> >I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile >> >support by default for all t

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 13:20:32 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > (It's a shame that the dpkg developers didn't adopt my suggestion of > [ ] for build-profiles, because that would have been > backward-compatible with old tools.) One of the reasons [0] it was not adopted was precisely because it is not ba

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"): > Well, I was thinking of build profiles for that. (Lesson for me: read the whole thread first.) > I know I can't do that until Jess is released and dpkg 1.17.2 is > in stable. Is it accepta

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Guile language support in make"): > Russ Allbery wrote: > >I think building two separate binaries makes more sense than adding Guile > >support by default for all the reasons you stated. We do similar things > >with Emacs, which has a -

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, May 11 2014, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I do this for the inn2 package and it has worked well for years. > Another (much simpler) example is kmod, which build a deb and a udeb. > If ./configure is not buggy and works when called from a build directory > then building two binary packages from t

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 11, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, > since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, > and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not > unsolvable, but messy, and I do not hav

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:38:15PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I would like to solicit the opinion of the developers about the > value of adding Guile support to the default make package, at the > expense of two smallish additional dependencies. > http://blog.melski.net/2013/11/29/w

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> On Sun, May 11 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted > to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so* > far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another > lan

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre writes: > Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted > to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so* far > down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another > language could cause significant problems. Oh, good point

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 03:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: > >Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > >> Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, > >> since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, > >> and each target of the ./de

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
Russ Allbery wrote: >Manoj Srivastava writes: > >> Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, >> since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, >> and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not >> unsolvable, but messy,

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava writes: > Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, > since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, > and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not > unsolvable, but messy, and I do not have the moti

Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have two constituencies here; people who would like to see guile support in make, and to explore the new features. And people who expect a sensibly small set of packages essential to building other packages in Debin. Without guile suport, make just depends on libc, and no