Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:42:08AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > PS: Besides, I was under the impression that the social pressure Andrew > faced after his d-d-a faux pas was partly responsible for his > resignation, so there would have been some sort of outcome indeed, but > maybe I am misremember

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008, Steve McIntyre wrote: > And because of that I've asked the listmasters to block him from > posting to d-d-a. > > Let's stop the discussion now, please. I'm sure we've all got better > things to do with our time. Community, Identity, Stability. Brave New World, -- Adnène

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Michael Banck wrote: >On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:18:14AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> I just don't care. We had the very same discussion 2 years ago. Nothing >> good came out of it, nothing will this time either. I see no point in >> trolling on -devel@ on the subject. Just answer privately to

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:18:14AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > I just don't care. We had the very same discussion 2 years ago. Nothing > good came out of it, nothing will this time either. I see no point in > trolling on -devel@ on the subject. Just answer privately to Joss if he > hurt your fe

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 09:26:48PM +, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Sun Nov 23, 2008 at 22:17:44 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > FWIW we had this discussion already: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00920.html > > > > Could we fucking stop repeating the same old discussio

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (23/11/2008): > Could we f*ing stop repeating the same old discussions over and over > and over ? every two year we troll about firmwares, bad jokes on > d-d-a, what else ? > > COULD WE PLEASE F*ING LEARN FROM OUR PAST PLEASE ? You may want not to use some deri

Re: For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun Nov 23, 2008 at 22:17:44 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > FWIW we had this discussion already: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00920.html > > Could we fucking stop repeating the same old discussions over and over > and over ? every two year we troll about firmwares, bad

For those who care about lesbians reloaded (Was: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount)

2008-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On dim, nov 23, 2008 at 05:52:46 +, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > I found it generally hilarious and a well-made point, though I agree the > presentation could have been in better taste. On dim, nov 23, 2008 at 08:23:02 +, Amaya wrote: > Steve Kemp wrote: > > with debian-women making s

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-17 Thread Sven Mueller
Andrew Suffield wrote on 15/01/2006 05:20: [I know the below quote has been directly linked to the 2005/08 incident of which I know no details - not being a DD yet myself - but I assume you would hold the same opinion with respect to your recent d-d-a post] > I fail to see how expressing a simple

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:36, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:51:03 +, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 08:40, Roger Leigh wrote: > >>> Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive >

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Brett Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 11:03:37PM +, Brett Parker wrote: > > Of course, the post to d-d-a about lesbians that then goes on state > > > """ > > Don't post ir

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 15 January 2006 09:31, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:44:06 +0100, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:47, Adam Heath wrote: > >> In fact, both of the last 2 emails to d-d-a go against the AUP. > >> Procedures should be started to punish

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 14 January 2006 18:16, Mike Bird wrote: > There was nothing offensive about Andrew's message. Context. This debate is not at all about the content of Andrew's message. Somebody tried to increase the cooperation between Debian and Ubunut in a well-meant effort (personally, while I

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:19:37 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Er, I thought it was offensive because it was sexist, not because >> there's anything wrong with being lesbian. > Umm, the fact that the phrase "You like looking a

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Christoph Haas
On Sunday 15 January 2006 09:33, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:40:41 +, Roger Leigh said: > > Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive your > > mail was? Nothing justifies abuse of our lists like that. d-d-a is > > a widely-read list both inside and ou

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:19:37 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There was nothing offensive about Andrew's message. Since you do >> not offer any reasons for your melodramatic conclusion, I suspect >> that you are merely trolling. >> I *hope

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:51:03 +, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 08:40, Roger Leigh wrote: >>> Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive >>> your mail was? Nothing justifies abuse of our lists like tha

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:44:06 +0100, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:47, Adam Heath wrote: >> In fact, both of the last 2 emails to d-d-a go against the AUP. >> Procedures should be started to punish the offenders. > They are of a completely different order. One

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:40:41 +, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive your > mail was? Nothing justifies abuse of our lists like that. d-d-a is > a widely-read list both inside and outside the project, and you have > done har

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 11:24:06PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> >> If you still can't take the hint, I'll be more blunt: this isn't the > >> >> first crass stunt you've pulled by any

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 11:03:37PM +, Brett Parker wrote: > Of course, the post to d-d-a about lesbians that then goes on state > """ > Don't post irrelevant stuff here. It would be a real shame if the list > had to be moderated because people can't

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Decklin Foster
Russ Allbery writes: > Er, I thought it was offensive because it was sexist, not because > there's anything wrong with being lesbian. Indeed. I think the point was a fine one, but the manner in which it was presented -- and more importantly, the fact that people are blowing right by that and argu

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:47, Adam Heath wrote: > In fact, both of the last 2 emails to d-d-a go against the AUP. > Procedures should be started to punish the offenders. They are of a completely different order. One is an error of judgement and "merely" off-topic, the other is intentionally o

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:00:40PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Since this sort of thing is apparently okay nowadays, and I know that > > a lot of you like looking at lesbians, I'd like to share this with > > you: > > > > http://www.flick

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Brett Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > >> If you still can't take the hint, I'll be more blunt: this isn't the > > >> first crass stunt you've pulled by any means, and you are now r

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> >> If you still can't take the hint, I'll be more blunt: this isn't the >> >> first crass stunt you've pulled by any means, and you are now r

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:51:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> If you still can't take the hint, I'll be more blunt: this isn't the > >> first crass stunt you've pulled by any means, and you are now right at > >> the limits of many peoples tolerance. Pull another one again, I may > >> be forced

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 1/14/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > > I got you sarcasm, but I still think that messages posted to > > debian-devel-announce should be more official. > > Come on, it is just Mr. Suffield slowly turning into the Overfiend :) > slowly? Are you sure? I dis

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There was nothing offensive about Andrew's message. Since you do not > offer any reasons for your melodramatic conclusion, I suspect that you > are merely trolling. > I *hope* you are not using this list to engage in discrimination against > those whose se

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 08:40, Roger Leigh wrote: >> Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive your >> mail was? Nothing justifies abuse of our lists like that. d-d-a is a >> widely-read lis

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Mike Bird
Roger, On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 08:40, Roger Leigh wrote: > Andrew, do you understand just how inappropriate and offensive your > mail was? Nothing justifies abuse of our lists like that. d-d-a is a > widely-read list both inside and outside the project, and you have > done harm to our reputation.

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:00:40PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: >> Since this sort of thing is apparently okay nowadays, and I know >> that a lot of you like looking at lesbians, I'd like to shar

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Amaya
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > I got you sarcasm, but I still think that messages posted to > debian-devel-announce should be more official. Come on, it is just Mr. Suffield slowly turning into the Overfiend :) -- .''`. sleep: command not found : :' : `. `' Pro

Re: For those who care about lesbians

2006-01-14 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:00:40PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Since this sort of thing is apparently okay nowadays, and I know that > a lot of you like looking at lesbians, I'd like to share this with > you: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/81351129/in/photostream/ > > [And