On Monday 20 April 2015 12:46 PM, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> That can be very quickly quite a set of packages. apt ~23, apititude
> ~40, mpv (similar to mplayer) ~159, kate (KDEs "notepad") ~465. [0]
> That can be tuned by excluding non-libraries, but that has its own
> drawbacks (private librar
❦ 4 avril 2015 10:54 +0200, Niels Thykier :
> * There is an experimental branch for debhelper to generate these
>automatically available.
>- Requires a "export DH_BUILD_DDEBS=1" to trigger the code path
>- It applies to *all* compat levels.
>- Trying to get the reproducible tea
On 2015-05-02 13:46, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 11:46:42PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
>> […] ddeb support […]
>
> +1. \o/
>
>
>>- apt now properly handles the "pkg:arch" dependency.
>
> [...]
>
> I would revert the revert as this is potentially causing more troubl
On 2015-04-19 19:10, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:54:09AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
>> The resulting debs are installable with dpkg -i ( \o/ ). I have not
>> tried anything fancy like setting up a local APT mirror and tried to
>> convince APT do install it.
>
> I did a
On 2015-04-12 05:31, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Niels Thykier wrote:
>
>> As noted on IRC, mentors.debian.net / debexpo will probably need to be
>> updated too (at least if we go the "ddebs" route).
>
> debexpo needs a rewrite to a non-deprecated framework so support for
On 2015-05-03 18:58, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 22:11:18 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
>> A) Use ".deb" (i.e. the regular extension) with a new "section".
>
> Is there any problem with using the existing "debug" section? Or is
> the different section used to distinguish
Hi!
On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 22:11:18 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> A) Use ".deb" (i.e. the regular extension) with a new "section".
Is there any problem with using the existing "debug" section? Or is
the different section used to distinguish that these are autogenerated
perhaps?
> B) Use ".dde
On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 09:07:56AM -0400, James McCoy wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 01:46:25PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> > (aka: I don't see why a debug
> > package has to depend on the package it provides symbols for at all. If
> > any the relation should be 'Enhances'…).
>
> The inte
On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 01:46:25PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> (aka: I don't see why a debug
> package has to depend on the package it provides symbols for at all. If
> any the relation should be 'Enhances'…).
The intention is to ensure the debug symbols came from the same build as
the bina
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 11:46:42PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> […] ddeb support […]
+1. \o/
>- apt now properly handles the "pkg:arch" dependency.
For different values of "properly" – apt isn't the only thing involved
here, you have to consider the reaction of dpkg and dose as well and
th
On 2015-04-04 10:54, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2015-04-04 09:54, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> Le jeudi 02 avril 2015 à 19:37 +0200, Esokrates a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am particularly interested in automatic debug packages, as the current
>>> situation is pretty messy imho. I found
>>> https://w
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:50:00AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:10 AM, David Kalnischkies wrote:
>
> > I would presume most derivatives aren't using it either
>
> Most derivatives appear to use reprepro but there is one using apt-ftparchive
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/De
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:10 AM, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> I would presume most derivatives aren't using it either
Most derivatives appear to use reprepro but there is one using apt-ftparchive
https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusFull
https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Lihuen
>
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:54:09AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> The resulting debs are installable with dpkg -i ( \o/ ). I have not
> tried anything fancy like setting up a local APT mirror and tried to
> convince APT do install it.
I did and apt works with ddeb just fine, meaning it can happily
Hi,
Quoting Niels Thykier (2015-04-11 09:20:36)
> On 2015-04-11 07:14, Niels Thykier wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> Stretch is a two year time frame though, which makes me kinda sad. Thanks
> >> for you effort though, keep up the amazing work! If I understand
> >> correctly, if
> >> it would have b
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Niels Thykier wrote:
> As noted on IRC, mentors.debian.net / debexpo will probably need to be
> updated too (at least if we go the "ddebs" route).
debexpo needs a rewrite to a non-deprecated framework so support for
ddebs is probably a long way off. Support for dd
On 2015-04-11 07:14, Niels Thykier wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Stretch is a two year time frame though, which makes me kinda sad. Thanks
>> for you effort though, keep up the amazing work! If I understand correctly,
>> if
>> it would have been something for stretch, either A or B would have been
>> de
On 2015-04-09 09:25, Esokrates wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:11:18 PM Niels Thykier wrote:
>> [...]
>
> So mostly that is more a decision making (political) problem, than a
> technical
> one.
It is not entirely clear to me that we any have (major) political issues
IRT ddebs.
People ge
On Thursday, April 09, 2015 09:25:44 AM Esokrates wrote:
> So mostly that is more a decision making (political) problem, than a
> technical one. Stretch is a two year time frame though, which makes me
> kinda sad. Thanks for you effort though, keep up the amazing work! If I
> understand correctly,
On Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:11:18 PM Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2015-04-07 21:10, Niels Thykier wrote:
> > On 2015-04-04 12:58, Esokrates wrote:
> >> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:54:09 AM Niels Thykier wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> I know predictions are hard, but is there a plan to get thi
On 2015-04-07 21:10, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2015-04-04 12:58, Esokrates wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:54:09 AM Niels Thykier wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I know predictions are hard, but is there a plan to get things done for the
>> next release (Stretch)?
>>
>
> At this point, there i
On 2015-04-04 12:58, Esokrates wrote:
> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:54:09 AM Niels Thykier wrote:
>> [...]
>>- Trying to get the reproducible team to try it out to see if it
>> regresses anything (incl. reproducible builds)
>
> I guess the ddeb's are meant to be reproducible too?
>
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:54:09 AM Niels Thykier wrote:
> > Last time I checked, dak was still missing code to handle the
> > generated .ddeb files.
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> And it *still* does! But there are a few things that have changed!
>
> * There is an experimental branch for debhelper
On 2015-04-04 09:54, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 avril 2015 à 19:37 +0200, Esokrates a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am particularly interested in automatic debug packages, as the current
>> situation is pretty messy imho. I found
>> https://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages.
>> Does any
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