Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-31 Thread Thomas Hood
Petter wrote: > I have not confirmed that this procedure will work, but here is my > suggestions anyway. > > - The Alioth system administrators have asked for help several times. > Get in touch with them and check what exactly they need help with. > Do a good job helping them, and prove that w

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jerome Warnier] > BTW, how could I apply for becoming DD with only doing sysadmin > tasks? I'd do it immediately. That's my job, I'm pretty good at it, > and I prefer that to packaging, while I'm able to package too (I > already have a package of mine in Debian). I have not confirmed that this

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 12:08, Frans Pop wrote: > The "Tasks and skills" part of [1] currently explicitly lists "either > documentation and internationalisation or package maintenance" as tasks > for which an applicant can be tested, so not only package maintenance. Forgot the link: [1] http://

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 11:11, Thomas Hood wrote: > Obviously you can't, currently. This is not true. The NM team and the DAMs have a certain amount of freedom to tailor the NM process to individual applicants. The "Tasks and skills" part of [1] currently explicitly lists "either documentati

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-29 Thread Thomas Hood
Jérôme Warnier wrote: > But [packaging] is not my main contribution to Debian, I propose patches and > close bugs for many packages I personally use or need for customers, and > this is not recognized currently as sufficient for becoming a DD... and > I'm not the only one. and later wrote: > So, h

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-27 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le samedi 21 janvier 2006 à 10:17 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > [Jérôme Warnier] > > But why would you want to become a DD if you are not willing to > > maintain a package. Debian is just about maintaining packages. > > Debian needs more than just people maintaining packages. We need > p

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-21 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Frans Jessop wrote: > Future [scenario:] > > There are now 10,000 DD's ... I would assert that Debian as we know it cannot have 10,000 DDs. Why not? For the same reason a standing parliament cannot have 10,000 members, or an industrial plant 10,000 workers. Try as we might, we humans cannot sc

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-21 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jérôme Warnier] > But why would you want to become a DD if you are not willing to > maintain a package. Debian is just about maintaining packages. Debian needs more than just people maintaining packages. We need people working on translations, documentation, testing, web pages, system administr

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-17 Thread Jérôme Warnier
[..] > Future A: > > There are now 10,000 DD's and over 100,000 packages, most nobody uses, they > are just there because they were needed by people who wanted to become DD's. > Now that they are, those unused packages are ignored. A major upload > occures and now there are 30,000 bugs on th

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
(M-F-T set.) [Frans Jessop] > When somebody wants to become a DD he is told ?Go find a package to > maintain, one that you can be the maintainer for.? I see serious > problems with this approach as Debian increases in DD's. I will how > this is in a second. What I think should be emphasized is

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-15 Thread John Gee
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Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-15 Thread Bastian Venthur
Frans Jessop wrote: > First, as the announcement just came a few days ago some are ignoring > their > bugs for months. If a team was on the project that is less likely to > happen. Hmm this already happens today with packages who *are* maintained by teams. > Second, collaboration on ideas for i

Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-01-15 Thread Frans Jessop
When somebody wants to become a DD he is told “Go find a package to maintain, one that you can be the maintainer for.” I see serious problems with this approach as Debian increases in DD's. I will how this is in a second. What I think should be emphasized is “Go find a package team and join