Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Josselin Mouette ha scritto: > As the situation is very similar in mplayer, mplayer is considered > RC-buggy by the security team. Josselin Mouette is talking about is bug 395252 Moritz Muehlenhoff (that is in security) asserted that he thinks that that bug 395252 should be RC But then I asked t

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Hello Loïc, On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 10:45:16AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > >I could not get rhythmbox to "simply" play CDs. > > What didn't work? I made sure this morning that an audio CD still > plays fine here, so you might want to report a

Hal issues with RB (Was: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2006, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > If you're not running a complete GNOME environment, it's possible that > hal is missing. Rhythmbox seems to need it for audio CD playback. At > least that's what bug 380503 indicates. RB recommends gnome-volume-manager which depends on hal, but it mig

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 10:45 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > >I could not get rhythmbox to "simply" play CDs. > > What didn't work? I made sure this morning that an audio CD still > plays fine here, so you might want to report a bug if it doesn't (

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Sun, Dec 10, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: >I could not get rhythmbox to "simply" play CDs. What didn't work? I made sure this morning that an audio CD still plays fine here, so you might want to report a bug if it doesn't (I "maintain" RB to some extent). > I coul

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 05:31:47PM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 09 décembre 2006 à 17:28 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > > Well, totem-xine is still the default in etch, which means > > > gstreamer-ffmpeg is only important for people explicitly installing > > > t

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le samedi 09 décembre 2006 à 17:28 +0100, Mike Hommey a écrit : > > Well, totem-xine is still the default in etch, which means > > gstreamer-ffmpeg is only important for people explicitly installing > > totem-gstreamer. However the reason until now for xine to be the default > > was its superior co

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 05:23:47PM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 09 décembre 2006 à 15:36 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit : > > 2. If the GNOME maintainers come to an agreement that linking dynamically > >is possible it would be _much_ appreciated, if not we

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le samedi 09 décembre 2006 à 15:36 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit : > 2. If the GNOME maintainers come to an agreement that linking dynamically >is possible it would be _much_ appreciated, if not we need to bite the >bullet. I have made a new patch which is much cleaner and opened a bug

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

a ffmpeg tree. It took me less than > one hour to figure it out and to build a working package with the Debian > ffmpeg library. > >> "Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch" is not "building gst-ffmpeg against >> Debian's ffmpeg"; any of these changes can be ach

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Loïc Minier wrote: >> - goobox > > Alternative programs available with a superset of the features, and an > active upstream. I'm waiting for a final ack of the maintainer that > the alternatives are indeed okay and that we can proceed with removal. If goobox's unique feature is remote audio

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:22:23PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > > > When ruby-gnome2 uses 0.10 changing my package will only be a matter of > > > changing the dependencies I hope. > > > > Note that your application will need some porting to gstreamer 0.10.  At > > least the current source in debi

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 12:03:11PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > > > - kttsd: no idea about this one > > GStreamer support can be switched to 0.10 or dropped. > Uploaded kttsd dropping gstreamer depends. Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le jeudi 7 décembre 2006 16:33, Sjoerd Simons a écrit : > ruby-gnome2 only contains bindings for gstreamer 0.8. To use gstreamer 0.10 > you need the libgstreamer0.10-ruby1.8 package. Which works perfectly with > the rest of ruby-gnome2 :) Thanks forthis point, I did not knew it ! > > When ruby-gn

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 02:53:59PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > On Thursday 07 December 2006 12:03, Loïc Minier wrote: > >  Initially missing from the list: geekast-binary.  The maintainer > >  commented that he is now working on porting this package to GStreamer > >  0.10. > > Ok, it seems that

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 01:57:46PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Feel insulted if you want. This issue has been known for months and it > took me one hour to find a way around it. And that is a fact, not an > insult. Maybe start by adjusting the subject next time you start discussing unrelated

Re: SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thursday 07 December 2006 12:03, Loïc Minier wrote: >  Initially missing from the list: geekast-binary.  The maintainer >  commented that he is now working on porting this package to GStreamer >  0.10. Ok, it seems that the issue is more complicated than that. Indeed, the while ruby-gnome2 bind

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 22:05 +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello, > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:41:11PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > Loïc Minier wrote: > > > - goobox: gnome.org module that did not see any new upstream release > > >since november 2005 and seems to be completely superseded

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le jeudi 07 décembre 2006 à 13:17 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : > On Thu, Dec 07, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > By hiding behind upstream, you're simply refusing to fix the problem. > > Insulting. Feel insulted if you want. This issue has been known for months and it took me one hour to find

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > By hiding behind upstream, you're simply refusing to fix the problem. Insulting. > as gst-ffmpeg ships a vanilla ffmpeg tree Wrong. > As the security people are the ones being really affected, I would like > to have Moritz' input on this

SUMMARY: Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Loïc Minier wrote: > - teatime: Sebastian Dröge sent a patch for GStreamer 0.10 support in >#401897 Fixed package uploaded. > - muine: version 0.8.6 in experimental is built against GStreamer 0.10, >see #381784 Fixed package available. > - kttsd: no idea about

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thu, Dec 07, 2006, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Seems that you do not include some other packages not directly depending on > this lib. Actually, I had a look when I sent this message, and saw: bee% apt-cache rdepends libgstreamer0.8-ruby libgstreamer0.8-ruby Reverse Depends: ruby-gnome2 and:

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

ranted because of this assumption, which is *entirely wrong*, as gst-ffmpeg ships a vanilla ffmpeg tree. It took me less than one hour to figure it out and to build a working package with the Debian ffmpeg library. > "Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch" is not "building gst-ffmpeg a

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:27:52PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi, > > This is to discuss dropping the 0.8 series of GStreamer for etch. > > Recently, a security bug affected gst-ffmpeg and needed an upload for > both the 0.8 and 0.10. The security team wonders whether it will have >

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:06, Sebastian Dröge wrote: > >    The number of packages which are still using the 0.8 series of > >  GStreamer has dropped significantly.  Remain as libgstreamer0.8-0 > >  rdeps: Seems that you do not include some other packages not directly depending on this lib.

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

exception was granted. Beside, you miss the important point that gst-ffmpeg heavily patches (read: "replaces") the ffmpeg build system, wihle mplayer has a close-to-vanilla ffmpeg tree. "Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch" is not "building gst-ffmpeg against Debian

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 22:05 +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Well, I haven't tried sound-juicer, but according to the (very brief) > package description, it is a ripper, and not a player. The main aim of > goobox is to play CDs on those systems where no direct link between > the CD drive and the au

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 21:27 +0100 schrieb Loïc Minier: > Hi, > > This is to discuss dropping the 0.8 series of GStreamer for etch. > > Recently, a security bug affected gst-ffmpeg and needed an upload for > both the 0.8 and 0.10. The security team wonders whether it will have >

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Am Mittwoch, den 06.12.2006, 22:47 +0100 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le mercredi 06 décembre 2006 à 21:48 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Maybe it is also not too late to rework the gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg package > > > to link against the Debian li

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le jeudi 07 décembre 2006 à 09:53 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : > I've forwarded your patch upstream for comments. I rely on upstream > for updates of gst-ffmpeg. Applying such a patch to Debian only would > put upstream in a situation where bugs coming from Debian might be seen > as "tainted"

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > This is a separate issue, and the short status on the subject is that > > upstream thinks this is not possible, but they would accept help on > > this topic: > > > The attached patch should b

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: >The main aim of > goobox is to play CDs on those systems where no direct link between > the CD drive and the audio hardware exists (like, e.g., on my ibook). Uh, I misparsed your email, on syste

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 10:20:28PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > Well, I haven't tried sound-juicer, but according to the (very brief) > > package description, it is a ripper, and not a player. > > It can play as well, although you can also play CDs

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > I do really care about goobox. True, you're doing good job. > Of course, I am not a DD, so I have to accept if Daniel decides to > no longer to co-maintain / sponsor this package in which case I'll > have to look for a new sponsor for this package (but I hope this > won'

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le mercredi 06 décembre 2006 à 21:48 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Maybe it is also not too late to rework the gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg package > > to link against the Debian libavcodec/libavformat packages. This would > > save a lot of trouble to the

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Well, I haven't tried sound-juicer, but according to the (very brief) > package description, it is a ripper, and not a player. It can play as well, although you can also play CDs from other music players such as Rhythmbox or simply gnome-cd. >

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Hello, On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:41:11PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Loïc Minier wrote: > > - goobox: gnome.org module that did not see any new upstream release > >since november 2005 and seems to be completely superseded by > >sound-juicer; Daniel Baumann seems to continue maintenance

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Maybe it is also not too late to rework the gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg package > to link against the Debian libavcodec/libavformat packages. This would > save a lot of trouble to the security team. This is a separate issue, and the short status on the sub

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Loïc Minier wrote: > - goobox: gnome.org module that did not see any new upstream release >since november 2005 and seems to be completely superseded by >sound-juicer; Daniel Baumann seems to continue maintenance of this >source goobox is nice, but I /personally/ would abandon it in fa

Re: Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Le mercredi 06 décembre 2006 à 21:27 +0100, Loïc Minier a écrit : > Perhaps we can join efforts and drop GStreamer 0.8 from etch rapidly, > ideally before release; I initially scheduled this for immediately > after etch, as the 0.8 series are completely unmaintained upstream > (even security-wi

Dropping GStreamer 0.8 for etch

Hi, This is to discuss dropping the 0.8 series of GStreamer for etch. Recently, a security bug affected gst-ffmpeg and needed an upload for both the 0.8 and 0.10. The security team wonders whether it will have to support both sources for the etch lifetime. The number of packages w