On 5/29/19 11:01 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2019, Ansgar wrote:
>> On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 May 2019, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
One of the popular answers to this and some other problems is "nobody sat
down and wrote the cod
Hi,
Why to support additional fragmentation?
My opinion is debian was left behind regarding infrastructure. I do
packaging for
various distributions.
Honestly, I am running debian. But you could provide continues integration for
different architectures, not only i386 and amd64.
Extend access to
Hi,
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019, Paul Wise wrote:
> There are a few things that are possibly concerning:
Thanks for sharing those. Let me answer them.
> Freexian is essentially the only available-to-hire provider of
> services for Debian LTS, as the Freeside link doesn't lead anywhere
> useful. This mea
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:32 AM Holger Levsen wrote:
> LTS is accepted by the Debian community.
I'm not entirely sure this fully represents the range of feelings
about the LTS efforts.
There are a few things that are possibly concerning:
Freexian is essentially the only available-to-hire provid
hi,
just commenting on two bits now:
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 07:17:07AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:46:48AM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
> > I heard that this didn't wor
Quoting Helmut Grohne (2019-05-31 07:17:07)
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:46:48AM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
> >
> > I heard that this didn't work out well the last time ("dunc tank"),
> > though t
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:46:48AM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
>
> I heard that this didn't work out well the last time ("dunc tank"),
> though that was before the time I followed Debian development.
I
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:01:44AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
> > I heard that this didn't work out well the last time ("dunc tank"),
> > though that was before the time I followed Debian development.
> Yes, I was there (and mention it briefly in the
On Wed, 29 May 2019, Ansgar wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 May 2019, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > > One of the popular answers to this and some other problems is "nobody sat
> > > down and wrote the code". Not sure what can we do about this class
On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 10:38 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2019, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > One of the popular answers to this and some other problems is "nobody sat
> > down and wrote the code". Not sure what can we do about this class of
> > reasons.
>
> Use the $300,000 on ou
Hi,
On Wed, 29 May 2019, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> One of the popular answers to this and some other problems is "nobody sat
> down and wrote the code". Not sure what can we do about this class of
> reasons.
Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
https://lists.debian.org/debian-news/2019/msg00
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 08:43:55AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> IMHO this touches another burning topic: Its not that we do not want to
> provide some PPA equivalent - its just that we do not realise it. I do
> not remember how many years ago we talked about bikesheds (and
> obviously we even fo
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 07:54:20AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> As an example, Ubuntu makes it easy to add side-loaded channels (ppas).
> we don't.
IMHO this touches another burning topic: Its not that we do not want to
provide some PPA equivalent - its just that we do not realise it. I do
not re
Vincent Bernat:
> ❦ 28 mai 2019 06:30 +00, Niels Thykier :
>
>> I.e. with the proper implementation of "make-it-work" (in the lack of a
>> better name - maybe something "fetch-and-build"), the following should
>> be possible
>>
>> """
>> #!/usr/bin/make -f
>>
>> # DISTRIBUTION = $(shell sed -n "s
Hi Thomas,
On 2019-05-28 07:48, Thomas Dettbarn wrote:
> Debian was quite more complicated, and the documentation on that
> topic was scattered all over the interwebs. Here I had to download
> the sources, rename the directories, rename the package, repackage,
> change some files, count the numbe
On 5/28/19 9:48 AM, Thomas Dettbarn wrote:
> Hello.
>
>
> This is slightly off-topic, and I have not been on this mailinglist
> since this thread started. Nevertheless, I would like to express my
> support for changing the packaging practices.
>
> Over the last two weeks, I tried creating ports
Hello.
This is slightly off-topic, and I have not been on this mailinglist
since this thread started. Nevertheless, I would like to express my
support for changing the packaging practices.
Over the last two weeks, I tried creating ports and packages for my
project "dMagnetic". It was rather easy
❦ 28 mai 2019 06:50 +00, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
:
>> packages. While my Perl is a bit rusty, I can propose some "dh_fetch"
>> helper for this if there is no huge opposition against this approach.
>
> why not a dh_uscan ?
>
> what is the fundamental difference between dh_fetch and what you can
>
❦ 28 mai 2019 06:30 +00, Niels Thykier :
> I.e. with the proper implementation of "make-it-work" (in the lack of a
> better name - maybe something "fetch-and-build"), the following should
> be possible
>
> """
> #!/usr/bin/make -f
>
> # DISTRIBUTION = $(shell sed -n "s/^VERSION_CODENAME=//p" /etc
Vincent Bernat:
> ❦ 28 mai 2019 08:59 +08, Paul Wise :
>
>>> People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and
>>> will never be contributors.
>>
>> I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's
>> tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one
❦ 28 mai 2019 08:59 +08, Paul Wise :
>> People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and
>> will never be contributors.
>
> I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's
> tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one is
> committed to using
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 2:52 PM Vincent Bernat wrote:
> People using tools like fpm will never get familiar with our tools and
> will never be contributors.
I enjoyed your blog post about pragmatic packaging using Debian's
tools instead of fpm, it seems like a good approach if one is
committed to
> "Ben" == Ben Finney writes:
Ben> Sam Hartman writes:
>> If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a
>> system with their release schedule and their recommended
>> dependency versions, there are better ways than getting a package
>> into Debian.
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes:
Russ> This is my experience as well. I've occasionally tried to get
Russ> people at work (at various jobs) interested in packaging
Russ> software for Debian, without all that much success. The
Russ> problem seems less any one specific thing a
❦ 27 mai 2019 16:15 +10, Ben Finney :
>> If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a system
>> with their release schedule and their recommended dependency versions,
>> there are better ways than getting a package into Debian.
>
> In the Debian mentors forum (that is, the chat
Sam Hartman writes:
> If you just want to get upstream's idea of their package onto a system
> with their release schedule and their recommended dependency versions,
> there are better ways than getting a package into Debian.
In the Debian mentors forum (that is, the chat channel, the mailing
li
Sam Hartman writes:
> I think it's a combination of a lot of things. We have high standards,
> a lot of complexity, and you have to get most or all of that right to
> contribute. You have to have a package that meets our standards. You
> have to have a copyright file that meets our standards.
Le dim. 26 mai 2019 à 23:01, Sam Hartman a écrit :
> > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
>
> Adrian> It is a problem for people making their first contributions
> Adrian> to Debian to get them into unstable. The problem here is
> Adrian> lack of sponsors willing to do proper review
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
Adrian> It is a problem for people making their first contributions
Adrian> to Debian to get them into unstable. The problem here is
Adrian> lack of sponsors willing to do proper reviews and then
Adrian> uploads. Usually the package in questio
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