Hi Daniel and others.
On Apr 20 2013, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> I came across this on Planet Debian
>
> http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
>
> I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid because
> of the freeze, that may well be the answer to
On 04/25/2013 09:40 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> There are actually users who do not "see" the system but just the
> topping.
Yes, but I don't think we should encourage any users in this skewed view
of the system.
> I would never try to blame the user about this.
Nor would I. However, I would not
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 02:40:38PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> understandable to him: What is an operating system. (Hey, also Windows
> is no operating system - it is just a kick-starter for Windows, Excel, a
> browser and a mail client, right?)
s/for Windows, Excel/for Word, Excel/
Kind rega
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:00:11PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Andreas Tille (2013-04-25 09:20:59)
> > I honestly wonder if there is some more general definition for the
> > term "app store" besides what according to[1] certain companies have
> > made out of it. Following the l
On 25-04-13 10:50, Clint Byrum wrote:
> On 2013-04-24 12:43, Guillem Jover wrote:
> All of the things you mention are huge accomplishments, but the scope is
> what I am suggesting has gotten out of hand. Do we really need "a high
> level view" and "QA of the entire system" for MongoDB?
We don't ne
Quoting Andreas Tille (2013-04-25 09:20:59)
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43:48PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > ...
> > A distribution (any, most) is the gel that binds and gives an unified
> > and coherent shape to the software ecosystem.
>
> +1 (to everything even the cutted part)
>
> > An app
Le Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 01:50:58AM -0700, Clint Byrum a écrit :
>
> My suggestion is not to stop packaging, but to shift focus
> from "make an awesome package" to "make an awesome upstream" that
> results in an automatically generated awesome package. Debhelper and
> many of the other tools defini
On 2013-04-24 12:43, Guillem Jover wrote:
Hi!
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
[...]. IMO this is why upstream packaging should be
embraced and enhanced rather than focusing on dpkg.
I'm not sure if you refer to the tool here, or to the packaging work,
doesn't change m
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43:48PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> ...
> A distribution (any, most) is the gel that binds and gives an unified
> and coherent shape to the software ecosystem.
+1 (to everything even the cutted part)
> An app store is just like
> a scrapyard, you might find magnificen
Hi!
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> [...]. IMO this is why upstream packaging should be
> embraced and enhanced rather than focusing on dpkg.
I'm not sure if you refer to the tool here, or to the packaging work,
doesn't change much anyway.
> I once worked on the 'pkgme
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:58:33PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > But for new packages, where Canonical is striking out on its own
> > to deliver significant new functionality and the folks working on these
> > packages are not DDs, there's a clear pragmatic a
Steve Langasek wrote:
> But for new packages, where Canonical is striking out on its own
> to deliver significant new functionality and the folks working on these
> packages are not DDs, there's a clear pragmatic argument for doing the work
> directly in Ubuntu rather than blocking the
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 06:57:30AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 04/20/2013 07:37 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > I came across this on Planet Debian
> > http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
> > I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid bec
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 06:57:30 AM Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 04/20/2013 07:37 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > I came across this on Planet Debian
> >
> > http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
> >
> > I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to si
On 04/20/2013 07:37 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> I came across this on Planet Debian
>
> http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
>
> I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid because
> of the freeze, that may well be the answer to Rogério's questio
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 07:22:05PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> Ideally, i'd like to see debian to branch or use t-p-u, such that sid
> can continue accepting new uploads and not freeze. E.g. something
> similar to how fedora operates. I vaguely recall that something like
> that has been propos
On 22 April 2013 13:20, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 07:22:05PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>> I also posted on Debian Planet, how to find patches applied in Ubuntu
>> via Debian PTS together with categories of useful fixes that are
>> relevant to Jessie and may be already
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 07:22:05PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> I also posted on Debian Planet, how to find patches applied in Ubuntu
> via Debian PTS together with categories of useful fixes that are
> relevant to Jessie and may be already solved/patched in Ubuntu. [1]
>
> I perceived that bl
Le Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:05:29AM -0700, Clint Byrum a écrit :
>
> These patches, by and large should not require duplication. If you
> look, some of the arm support patches happened in Fedora, not
> Ubuntu. Now, I think I might scold my colleagues in Ubuntu for not
> annotating their patches wit
On 20 April 2013 12:37, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>
> I came across this on Planet Debian
>
> http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
>
> I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid because
> of the freeze, that may well be the answer to Rogério's qu
On 2013-04-20 04:37, Daniel Pocock wrote:
I came across this on Planet Debian
http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid
because
of the freeze, that may well be the answer to Rogério's questions.
Th
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Nonetheless, with derivatives and Debian itself having different release
> cycles, and wearing my upstream developer hat, I can't help wondering:
> how can upstreams ensure that the freshest versions of their package
> propagate to the deriva
I came across this on Planet Debian
http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog//posts/lack_of_cooperation_from_ubuntu/
I'm guessing that Ubuntu may not have pushed the changes to sid because
of the freeze, that may well be the answer to Rogério's questions.
Nonetheless, with derivatives and Debian itself h
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