Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Karl M. Hegbloom) | > "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Tollef> * Wichert Akkerman | Tollef> | Previously David B Harris wrote: | Tollef> | > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) | Tollef> | | Tollef> | Someone actually did

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Wichert, can you give us a hint, please? What keywords? I'm afraid I really don't remember. I know I've seen the rpm and I've read some testimonials about how it worked or failed for a few people. I can't remember who made it or where it could be found though

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-08 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> Previously David B Harris wrote: >> Well, I'm kind of thinking he meant an automated procedure. Wichert> So did I. Someone made a rpm package that you could install with Wichert> rpm and it would convert a Re

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-08 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Tollef" == Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tollef> * Wichert Akkerman Tollef> | Previously David B Harris wrote: Tollef> | > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) Tollef> | Tollef> | Someone actually did this a couple of years ago so it is f

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-07 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:27, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: >> I think you can probably boot to it with a carefully crafted >> initrd that performs a pivot_root into the debootstrapped >> chroot. Russell> I believe t

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously David B Harris wrote: > Well, I'm kind of thinking he meant an automated procedure. So did I. Someone made a rpm package that you could install with rpm and it would convert a RedHat system into a Debian system. It only handled the base system and left the rest unchanged, but it did wor

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:03:37 +0100 Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) > > Someone actually did this a couple of years ago so it is feasible. Well, I'm kind of thinking he meant an automated procedure. To do a "real" upgrade, lots

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:27, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > I think you can probably boot to it with a carefully crafted initrd > that performs a pivot_root into the debootstrapped chroot. I believe that pivot_root only works on mounted file systems, so unless your chroot environment is at the root dir

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread David Graham
Debian.rpm would be very cool. And very portable! system:~# alien --to-deb Debian.rpm ; dpkg --install Debian.deb :) David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Wichert Akkerman | Previously David B Harris wrote: | > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) | | Someone actually did this a couple of years ago so it is feasible. Run-time upgrading from RH to Debian is very much feasible and very, very cool. No reboot required, even. It w

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously David B Harris wrote: > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) Someone actually did this a couple of years ago so it is feasible. Wichert. -- _ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This space intentionally left o

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-05 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I think you can probably boot to it with a carefully crafted initrd that performs a pivot_root into the debootstrapped chroot. Or, perhaps you could run a UML kernel there? Has anyone tried that? -- mailto: (Karl M. Hegbloom) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.microsharp.com phone://USA/WA/360-260

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 12:11:14PM -0500, David B Harris wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:56:58 +0100 > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it would be possible, you know. an RPM that basically substitutes > > every installed RPM by the corresponding DEB. that would rock ;) > > Well, what

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-05 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:18:41 +0100 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps: please don't cc me on list responses. Yeah, my apologies. Hit the wrong keybinding :) pgpuw3oHQFncR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-05 Thread Samu
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 01:10:52PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > David B Harris wrote: > > But it would be feasible to package up a Debian chroot in an RPM. Too > > bad it would have to be huge to have a reasonable subset of useful > > Debian packages :) > > Don't bother with the chroot, just package

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
David B Harris wrote: > But it would be feasible to package up a Debian chroot in an RPM. Too > bad it would have to be huge to have a reasonable subset of useful > Debian packages :) Don't bother with the chroot, just package up debootstrap with maybe some wrapper code to call it easier ("/usr/bi

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 12:11, David B Harris wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:56:58 +0100 > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it would be possible, you know. an RPM that basically substitutes > > every installed RPM by the corresponding DEB. that would rock ;) > > Well, what you're sugge

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.04.1811 +0100]: > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) why not? it would be a horrible debugging cycle, but you can totally replace an operating system with an RPM... > But it would be feasible to package up a Debian chroot

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:56:58 +0100 martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it would be possible, you know. an RPM that basically substitutes > every installed RPM by the corresponding DEB. that would rock ;) Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;) But it would be feasible to pac

Re: Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Valentijn Sessink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.04.1255 +0100]: > A friend of mine runs RedHat and told me "but I configure it with vi". > I told him - jokingly - that I prefered Debian and joe. He answered > "Hmm, Debian, what's that for a package? Maybe there's an .rpm of it". > > Ma

Debian.rpm

2002-01-04 Thread Valentijn Sessink
Just a short, silly note. A friend of mine runs RedHat and told me "but I configure it with vi". I told him - jokingly - that I prefered Debian and joe. He answered "Hmm, Debian, what's that for a package? Maybe there's an .rpm of it". Made me think :-D V.