Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
>> To those users that want newer software my next question would be "What
>> software?". My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways
>> the same software and used for the same use case
Samuel Thibault wrote:
>Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit :
>> How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
>> personnally in favor of the "freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
>> frozen and unfreeze rolling" plan, though it has some problems too
>>
Hi Lucas,
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:59:04PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I think that one of the conclusions of the discussion from the last few
> days is that the freeze "blockage" has very good features that many of
> us are not willing to give up, like the ability to focus the DDs on
> worki
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 10:33 +0200, Milan P. Stanic a écrit :
> IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
> to invest some time to learn and "user friendly" distributions are for
> other more or less laymen people.
Certainly not. Debian is the universal Operating Syst
"Milan P. Stanic" writes:
> I don't think that the Debian can beat Ubuntu in popularity on
> desktop/laptop field (not yet) and IMHO it should not even try that.
> IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
> to invest some time to learn and "user friendly" distributi
On 03/05/11 at 13:38 +0200, sean finney wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
> to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
> "rolling" and "user-oriented" testing release.
>
> The feedback that started (or at lea
* Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 10:51]:
> > Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
> > stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
> > releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
> > years from the release date on
Hi Lucas,
I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
"rolling" and "user-oriented" testing release.
The feedback that started (or at least helped springboard) this massive
thread was that "when we'
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:47, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 08:12]:
> > I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
> > since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
> > Firstly, I think the question should be, "which users wo
> Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
> stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
> releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
> years from the release date on is good if even a bit on the short side.
I was
* Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 08:12]:
> I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
> since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
> Firstly, I think the question should be, "which users would be targeted by a
> rolling release?" I don't think ther
Hello,
I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
Firstly, I think the question should be, "which users would be targeted by a
rolling release?" I don't think there are many people out who have the need
Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
> To those users that want newer software my next question would be "What
> software?". My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways
> the same software and used for the same use case: KDE / Gnome /
> Multimedia stuff
Pierre Habouzit writes:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
>> decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
>> said so far. It might not be complete, it's proba
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:44:11PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:31]:
>
> > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> > > * Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:23]:
> > >
> > > > Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... does
* Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:31]:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> > * Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:23]:
> >
> > > Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
> > > having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I thin
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:27:02PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:23]:
>
> > Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
> > having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs
> > care for such since working on Deb
* Jan Hauke Rahm [2011-05-02 18:23]:
> Not that I don't understand your asking for reasons but... doesn't look
> having a large user base look somehow appealing to you? I think many DDs
> care for such since working on Debian brings more fun if someone's
> actually using it.
Why do you believe t
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:42:05PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
> > decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
> > said
On Monday, May 02, 2011 07:31:31 AM Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
...
> How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
> personnally in favor of the "freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
> frozen and unfreeze rolling" plan, though it has some problems too
> (it is not clear whether th
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:31:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
> decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
> said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I
> hope th
Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit :
> How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
> personnally in favor of the "freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
> frozen and unfreeze rolling" plan, though it has some problems too
> (it is not clear whether the
Hi,
Since I already sent too many mails in the 'rolling' discussion, I
decided to send one more. Here is an attempt at a summary of what was
said so far. It might not be complete, it's probably a bit biased, but I
hope that it's still better than nothing. When replying, please try to
focus on sp
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