Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-20 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Qua, 2005-05-11 Ãs 03:07 -0500, Jaime Ochoa MalagÃn escreveu: > Hi everybody, Hello, > > I'm only have a doubt, if someone make a mirror of the official debian > (including non-free) and all that packages are ditributed is in danger > to being sued? Non-free is only *distributed* by Debian,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ed Cogburn | We ARE Debian for Heaven's sake! I can't see that you've done anything at all for the AMD64 port, nor are you a DD. Please go troll somewhere else. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who i

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Brett Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea, like annoying users by leaving non-free behind just because you're still > mad that the DDs voted to keep it. Sure. I *am* an AMD64 user, and I can completely understand *why* they are being cautious.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jaime_Ochoa_Malag=F3n?=
Hi everybody, I'm only have a doubt, if someone make a mirror of the official debian (including non-free) and all that packages are ditributed is in danger to being sued? Accordingly with Goswin that's nothing about complain, only the main server of the distribution don't have non-free, the main

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> >> On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. > >> > > >> > That was the point ma

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:34:57AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Stop acting like such a spoiled child. You want non-free for amd64? Host it yourself until it gets moved officially. Don't like it? You've qualified for a full refund on your purchase. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 3:22pm, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: > >> Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? > > > > Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. > > Laywers arent rationale. > > > Give us one reasonable exampl

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: >> Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? > Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. > Give us one reasonable example of why some one would waste time and > money to sue the amd64.de

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Seriously, get some patience and don't inflame the situation > > please. Things like "most of that" is of zero help in deciding what > > can go in and what not. We know most

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go > > in right now because they don't require anyone's permission to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. >> > >> > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the >> > other arch! I

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT OUR NON-FREE! You're entirely right. After having to read that lot, I'd be impressed if anyone cared about making sure amd64 shipped with non-free. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. > > > > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the > > other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Wit

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ed Cogburn writes: >> Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to >> provide non-free, not harder. The only problem with non-free is the >> internal politics of Debian. Ubuntu certainly doesn't have any problem >> providing ac

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. >> > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the >> > other >> > ar

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > > >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. > > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the > > other > > arch! If this is not the case please explain why.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. >> > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the >> > other >> > arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that >> > explanation I am >> > forced to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread John Hasler
Ed Cogburn writes: > Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to > provide non-free, not harder. The only problem with non-free is the > internal politics of Debian. Ubuntu certainly doesn't have any problem > providing access to, but not support for, non-free. One of

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: >> Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. > That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other > arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that explanation > I am > forced to agree with Ed - the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:02, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: > > >> Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with > >> it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we > >> aren't Debian). > > Wait a second, if you *are

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: >> Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with >> it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we >> aren't Debian). > Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to > provide non-f

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to > provide non-free, not harder. Permission to redistribute some bits of non-free may be specific to Debian. Alternatively, packages may be buildable but no permission to rebuild them g

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:26:20AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Hi > > > > Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with > > it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we > > aren't Debian). >

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Cameron Patrick
Ed Cogburn wrote: > > Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with > > it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we > > aren't Debian). > > > Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to > provide non-free, not har

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hi > > Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with > it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we > aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to