Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-27 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 23/09/2012 17:49, Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.09.2012, 15:59 +0200 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: The DM flag (and in future ACL) shows that one trusts that one DM to do a good job on that one package. Extending it like "this DM may upload all packages of [whateverbiglist]" is jus

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-27 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 23/09/2012 17:49, Joachim Breitner wrote: we need to upload all>450 packages with no source change That's called a binNMU and is very simple to schedule, as you already know ;) In the OCaml team, we have the very same issue and we try to avoid arch:all packages for libraries and application

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-25 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le lundi 24 septembre 2012 23:53:01, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 07:33:03PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > package X would depend on the maintainer field of the packages *already* > > in Debian, not the one in the package he uploads. Just the way it is at > > One way to re

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-24 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 07:33:03PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, den 24.09.2012, 11:59 -0500 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > > [Joachim Breitner] > > > Would it be possible to extend the syntax to specify lists of > > > packages not by name, but by Maintainer, > > > e.g. pkg-haske

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-24 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 24.09.2012, 11:59 -0500 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > [Joachim Breitner] > > Would it be possible to extend the syntax to specify lists of > > packages not by name, but by Maintainer, > > e.g. pkg-haskell-maintainers@l.a.d.o? Bonus points if such an > > assigment is expanded at di

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-24 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Joachim Breitner] > Would it be possible to extend the syntax to specify lists of > packages not by name, but by Maintainer, > e.g. pkg-haskell-maintainers@l.a.d.o? Bonus points if such an > assigment is expanded at dinstall time, so that the statement “DM > 1234 may upload all packages owned by

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:13:08PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > (BTW, source only uploads anyone? Then I can easily do the uploads on my > own and need neither the DDs nor the DMs in my team to do what computers > can do better.) If it's happening often enough, you may want to think about crea

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 24.09.2012, 00:26 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > On 09/23/2012 11:49 PM, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Also, the real time-consuming work for us is when we > > need to upload all>450 packages with no source change, or a trivial > > one. > Someone assigned with such task as modify

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/23/2012 11:49 PM, Joachim Breitner wrote: Also, the real time-consuming work for us is when we need to upload all>450 packages with no source change, or a trivial one. Someone assigned with such task as modifying (even trivially) and uploading 450 packages should definitively be(come) a DD

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.09.2012, 15:59 +0200 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: > The DM flag (and in future ACL) shows that one trusts that one DM to do > a good job on that one package. Extending it like "this DM may upload > all packages of [whateverbiglist]" is just wrong. > > > (Of course this is just co

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-23 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12978 March 1977, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Would it be possible to extend the syntax to specify lists of packages > not by name, but by Maintainer, e.g. pkg-haskell-maintainers@l.a.d.o? Not with the current setup. We have a m:n relation between DMs and source packages. It's an interesting ide

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 10:06:35 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > This new interface replaces the old DMUA field. The old field will stop > working on the 24th of November 2012, from then on only packages > explicitly granted upload permission to their DMs using the interface > described here wi

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Gergely Nagy (alger...@madhouse-project.org): > Yep, that is one of the solutions I mentioned earlier. Therefore, if a > DM does care, migrating to the new system is by all means possible, and > they have very little to do, they will not be punished for another > person's absence or mistak

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 22.09.2012, 10:06 +0200 schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: > During the FTPMaster meeting last week we have implemented the new > interface for managing DM permissions[1]. very cool stuff, this makes DMs much more useful in teams with a large amount of packages, thanks a lot! Would it

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > If any DM asks me to, and they can show they've made uploads (with > DMUA) before this announcement for that package, and that they've not > broken things in a gnarly gnarly way (and if their sponsor is VAC, > MIA or otherwise not here), I don't think I'd have any probl

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:56:54AM +0200, Arno Tröll wrote: > Hi, > > On 22.09.2012 10:06, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > We are using this opportunity to clean up the "DM database" and will not > > convert any of the DMUA flags to the new format, but two months ought to > > be enough for any active

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Arno Töll writes: > On 22.09.2012 10:06, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> We are using this opportunity to clean up the "DM database" and will not >> convert any of the DMUA flags to the new format, but two months ought to >> be enough for any active DM to ensure their sponsor DDs have set the new >> p

Re: Changes to Debian Maintainer upload permissions

2012-09-22 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, On 22.09.2012 10:06, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > We are using this opportunity to clean up the "DM database" and will not > convert any of the DMUA flags to the new format, but two months ought to > be enough for any active DM to ensure their sponsor DDs have set the new > permission. please do