Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
El 20/3/25 a las 15:29, Jeremy Bícha escribió: Thank you for this wonderful project and for raising the severity to serious since it's clearly easier to fix the bugs in Unstable now rather than as Stable Updates later. Thanks go to the Release Managers, more specifically Paul Gevers, who allowe

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-03-20 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 11:56 AM Santiago Vila wrote: > This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: Thank you for this wonderful project and for raising the severity to serious since it's clearly easier to fix the bugs in Unstable now rather than as Stable Updates later. I think your

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-02-15 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 11:58:40PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Maybe you can consider using a time namespace (unshare -T) and > change the system date/time in that namespace. As those jobs already run in throw away VM, just change the system time. You have to change it back to be able to ta

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-02-15 Thread Santiago Vila
El 15/2/25 a las 10:44, Paul Gevers escribió: Can the Release Managers suggest a calendar for raising those bugs, first to important, then to serious? What I had in mind was that you'd file the bugs and after some time (say, one or two months) raised them, giving maintainers a bit more time th

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-02-15 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Santiago Sorry for dropping the ball on this. On 05-01-2025 17:56, Santiago Vila wrote: I was told that it was ok to consider those bugs as "RC for trixie" but I was also requested to be nice when reporting those bugs, so I have been reporting them as severity:normal (except when the future

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-06 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Chris Hofstaedtler , 2025-01-05 23:58: Maybe you can consider using a time namespace (unshare -T) and change the system date/time in that namespace. I don't think that would work. From time_namespaces(7): "Note that time namespaces do not virtualize the CLOCK_REALTIME clock. Virtualization

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 at 23:58:40 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > as we've seen in the time_t-64 transition, programs that interpose > library calls like this are extremely hard to get right and very > brittle. > > I would strongly suggest to not put new load-bearing stuff on top of > such a prog

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 11:58:40PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Maybe you can consider using a time namespace (unshare -T) and > change the system date/time in that namespace. I'd also strongly suggest to do a full archive rebuild in such namespace comparing that with a full archive rebuild

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
[ moving technical discussion to -devel, as -release was just to ask RM for a calendar to raise severities ] [ Bcc to Holger on this one ] El 5/1/25 a las 23:59, Holger Levsen escribió: so what did you use? I still change the system clock. So, the same you did.

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 09:28:24PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Did you use libfaketime in this round of rebuilds? > No, I did not use libfaketime yet (sorry). so what did you use? setting the system time to the future (like we've been doing for tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian for many

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, * Otto Kekäläinen [250105 21:54]: > Thanks for encouragement. I filed > https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/411 and will > continue research on libfaketime/datefudge in CI there. as we've seen in the time_t-64 transition, programs that interpose library calls like this a

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Thanks for encouragement. I filed https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/411 and will continue research on libfaketime/datefudge in CI there.

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Em 5 de janeiro de 2025 15:28:24 GMT-05:00, Santiago Vila escreveu: >El 5/1/25 a las 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen escribió: >>> This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: >>> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html >>> >>> I did another test rebuild and found

Re: Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! > This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html > > I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing > in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package > for which the fix was lost and the bug had

Building packages in the future.

2025-01-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. This is an update for my previous MBF announcement here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2024/05/msg00414.html I did another test rebuild and found 11 new packages failing in the not-so-distant future. I also found another package for which the fix was lost and the bug had to reope