Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:49:30AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For the moment, the answer is: > > As a side effect trying to build ghc6 on MIPS, many (hundreds?) other > > packages are blocked from migrating to testing for more than a m

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The buildd queues aren't FIFO, this has been explained already a >> dozen times if not more. > > And every time that discussion surfaces, suggestions to include age in > the formula used to calculate the build order are presented. Also > suggestio

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the moment, the answer is: > > As a side effect trying to build ghc6 on MIPS, many (hundreds?) other > packages are blocked from migrating to testing for more than a month. Eh, what? You think that mips* is the problem here? What about the missi

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Julien BLACHE] >> Clearly, in the conflict of interest between the ghc6 MIPS users, and >> the testing users on other arches, a choice has been made, of which I am >> unhappy. > > No choice has been made. I don't know what you're on, but you'd better > put it off. The "I don't know what you're o

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> He doesn't have to use unstable. He can use pinning for this specific >> package. > > Sure, and he can also use dpkg -i. The question is: why should we ask > him to make the effort? He is using testing. We never made any commitment wrt availability in

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:28:42PM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > 2) The obvious solution is to add SATA disks to the buildds, this is >currently in the works. rem.rfc822.org done since 2008-02-22 - 120GB PATA Disk on a Promise UDMA 133 Controller. > 1) Upgrades to 1-2 GB RAM are also currentl

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-01, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ask: > - Who is in charge for taking such a decision ? Release team > - Where can I appeal ? Tech-ctte /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 12:15:17PM +0100, Julien BLACHE a écrit : > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He doesn't have to use unstable. He can use pinning for this specific > package. Sure, and he can also use dpkg -i. The question is: why should we ask him to make the effort? For

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:45:31AM +0100, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > > So you might devote your time to > > a) Find the cause of the build crash > b) Hunt down the kernel bug in 2.6.24 > c) Poke at the buildd admin to move the buildd to the new disk subsys This is ridiculus and provocative. I h

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:40:57AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : > > > > Due to kernel problems, the mips* buildds haven't been very reliable in > > the past few weeks, creating a lng backlog of packages that need to > > be built. As there seems to be a workar

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Julien BLACHE
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > packages migrate? I just got a message from a user who wants to use one > of the blocked packages (emboss), and I am just so ashamed to answer him > that he has to use unstable just because it is not built on a platform > where nobody is using it. He do

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-01 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 12:36:40PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > it is good news to read that there is a solution being found. However, I > am a bit confused because previous messages were suggesting that the > problem was disk speed, not downtime. Downtime caused by ghc6 build causing multiple k

Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-02-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:40:57AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : > > Due to kernel problems, the mips* buildds haven't been very reliable in > the past few weeks, creating a lng backlog of packages that need to > be built. As there seems to be a workaround for the kernel bug, this >