Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:27:16AM +, Alexander Koch wrote: > > Just use LC_CTYPE=de_DE. It'll work fine in mutt. (The problem is, if > > I remember correctly, that X uses ISO8859-1, without the first dash.) > > Ok, but now I am confused... > > LC_CTYPE=de_DE > LANG=de_DE > LC_MESSAGES=C > >

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Patrick von der Hagen
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:27:16AM +, Alexander Koch wrote: [...] > Should give me german umlauts and the prompts/messages > should still be like before, right? Do I really not have > to set ISO-8859-1 somewhere? You have to set it in /etc/locale.gen. Make sure that there is a line "de_DE ISO-8

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Brian May
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> However, Steve> $ LANG=hr_HR LC_COLLATE=C ls -A Steve> .A .B .C .a .b .c A B C a b c Steve> which was Arthur's point, I believe. That means you can't have ls sort in a different order though (as define

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Alexander Koch
On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:57:43 -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > Just use LC_CTYPE=de_DE. It'll work fine in mutt. (The problem is, if > I remember correctly, that X uses ISO8859-1, without the first dash.) Ok, but now I am confused... LC_CTYPE=de_DE LANG=de_DE LC_MESSAGES=C Should give me german umla

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-06 Thread Steven Hanley
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:20:21PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: > While we're at it: How on earth can I get rid of those > > Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C > > messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 to get Umlauts etc in mutt. > Unfortunately, this produces the abov

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-05 Thread jcdubacq
On 5 May 2001, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > "Richard" == Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard> While we're at it: How on earth can I get rid of those > Richard> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C > > Richard> messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-05 Thread Patrick von der Hagen
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:20:21PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: [...] > messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 to get Umlauts etc in mutt. Try "LC_CTYPE=de_DE" instead. -- CU, Patrick. "Never run on auto-pilot" - The Pragmatic Programmer pgpzbiy9d7Pvs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-05 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Richard" == Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> While we're at it: How on earth can I get rid of those Richard> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Richard> messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 to get Umlauts Richard> etc in mutt. Un

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-05 Thread Richard Atterer
While we're at it: How on earth can I get rid of those Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C messages? I use LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-1 to get Umlauts etc in mutt. Unfortunately, this produces the above error message with lots of X programs - especially annoying when you use at

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread David Starner
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:17:33PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: > Am 4.05.01 um 16:28:16 schrieb Josip Rodin: > > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which is just plain wrong! > > Actually I'd expect my dictionary to be sorted exactly this way. And > that's what LC_COLLATE is for. It'

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:26:12PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > A paper dictionary would never contain a word starting with a `.', at least > > not one written in my language :) > > Even if it explains the term ".com"? :) You got me there. :) -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassi

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 04, Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sure, whatever, but *my* original point is that there is a setting in >mutt, namely "charset", which is documented to tell mutt what character >set the terminal is capable of displaying and entering. This used to That's correct. It's used to

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 04, Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's not just mutt. GTK+ has the same problem. The solution is to Every application using gettext has the same "problem". -- ciao, Marco

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:30:36PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:03:18AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/LC]% LANG=hr_HR ls -A > > .A .B .C .a .b .c A B C a b c > > Probably because your locale.gen isn't configured to build an hr_

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:03:18AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/LC]% LANG=hr_HR ls -A > .A .B .C .a .b .c A B C a b c Probably because your locale.gen isn't configured to build an hr_HR locale. -- Mike Stone

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:28:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > hmm, what's LC_COLLATE for again? > > ? I was referring to this: > > % touch a b c .a .b .c A B C .A .B .C > % LANG=C ls -A > .A .B .C .a .b .c A B C a b c > % LANG=hr_HR ls -A > a .a A .A b .b B .B c .c C

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:17:33PM +0200, Michael Piefel wrote: > > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which is just plain wrong! > > Actually I'd expect my dictionary to be sorted exactly this way. A paper dictionary would never contain a word starting with a `.', at least not one wr

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 4.05.01 um 16:28:16 schrieb Josip Rodin: > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which is just plain wrong! Actually I'd expect my dictionary to be sorted exactly this way. And that's what LC_COLLATE is for. It's a different story that this behaviour is outright silly when in a shell.

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 10:48:33AM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which is just plain wrong! > > And it's not happening on potato. > > Whee, I switched to Debian in time to catch the fury here, too. > > Basically, the situation is: > > Take i

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:38:06AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > Changing the LANG to en_US may have some unexpected side effects and > > > > > should not be done without at least some thought for the consequences. > > > > > (E.g., the sort order will be radically different.) > > > > > > >

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Alan Shutko
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:46:15PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > ? I was referring to this: And Arthur was referring to the fact that you can set LANG=hr_HR and LC_COLLATE=C and get the old behavior. > It acts as if the interpunction doesn't exist, which

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:46:15PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > > > > Changing the LANG to en_US may have some unexpected side effects and > > > > should not be done without at least some thought for the consequences. > > > > (E.g., the sort order will be ra

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:46:15PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > > > Changing the LANG to en_US may have some unexpected side effects and > > > should not be done without at least some thought for the consequences. > > > (E.g., the sort order will be radically different.) > > > > Hear, hear, the thi

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Arthur Korn
Josip Rodin schrieb: > > Changing the LANG to en_US may have some unexpected side effects and > > should not be done without at least some thought for the consequences. > > (E.g., the sort order will be radically different.) > > Hear, hear, the thing with the sort order is so annoying. But I guess

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:35:53PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > The solution is to get LANG set to at least en_US by default for > > everyone, as LANG=C is just not useful any more. > > Changing the LANG to en_US may have some unexpected side effects and > should not be done without at least so

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 03 May 2001, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 05:51:53PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > "Paul" == Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Paul> I think that *mutt* is definitely broken in this regard, > > Paul> because *no* other console program i know

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 05:51:53PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > "Paul" == Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Paul> I think that *mutt* is definitely broken in this regard, > Paul> because *no* other console program i know (e.g. mc or pine) > Paul> breaks like this usin

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-03 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Paul" == Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> I think that *mutt* is definitely broken in this regard, Paul> because *no* other console program i know (e.g. mc or pine) Paul> breaks like this using the very same libc. It's not just mutt. GTK+ has the same problem. T

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-03 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 05:31:34PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 02, Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >(*) I really hate it when people close bugs with a one-liner (or less) > >answer, without any substantiating motivation. Especially when parts of > That's fair. I have when peop

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 02, Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well, (as I wrote), mutt's manual.txt says that the charset setting is >used for that. This is your interpretation of the manual. >> >So what's the point of the charset setting? After all, the manual.txt >> It tells mutt about which charas

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-02 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 02 May 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote: > close 95975 I disagree about whether the bug is closed, as you "forget" to notice parts of my message. However, I don't feel like petty BTS games (*) > On May 02, Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >So I should now set en environment variabl

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
close 95975 thanks On May 02, Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So I should now set en environment variable to get mutt working the way >it used to, which was a "reasonable" mode of operation. IMHO that's in >violation of policy section 10.9: > > A program must not depend on en

Re: Bug#95975: mutt: doesn't use charset anymore

2001-05-02 Thread Paul Slootman
reopen 95975 thanks > Package: mutt > Version: 1.3.15-2 > Since upgrading to testing, mutt refuses to display iso-8859-1 > high-bit characters such as u-umlaut (ΓΌ). Instead, \374 is displayed. > > :set charset shows charset="iso-8859-1"; the message's Content-Type > is: > > Content-Type: text/p