Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 13:03 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > dpkg --add-architecture i386 > > apt-get update > > > > The installer doesn't AFAIK provide even the option to do this. (The > > i386/amd64 installer images might at

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > dpkg --add-architecture i386 > apt-get update > > The installer doesn't AFAIK provide even the option to do this. (The > i386/amd64 installer images might at least be usable as multiarch APT > sources though.) So this is a

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 12:43:56AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > The problem to be solved is that ISVs provide binaries for Linux i386 > and our users want to run them on amd64. LSB, x32 and ARM are > completely irrelevant - the important thing is to make it easy to > install whatever libraries th

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > You installed a 32-bit application on a 64-bit system. That will only > > work if you also install the 32-bit supporting libraries, including the > > dynamic linker. Th

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > You installed a 32-bit application on a 64-bit system. That will only > work if you also install the 32-bit supporting libraries, including the > dynamic linker. This is not a bug in Debian. > > And no, installing 32-bit libraries by

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26:46AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DOES EXIST. > >>> This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. > > > I guess it is bash telling you that. > > >> That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader fo

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > > release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to > > make > > Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. > > How about changing it from a kernel bug to tasksel fe

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 02:01:26AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > > But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. > > > > This does not mean you can't run 32bit application under a 64bit > Debian installation, it's because the support

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 01/03/2013 02:16 PM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> >> release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to >> make >> Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. > > How about changing it from a kernel bug to tasksel fea

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26:46AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader for a > >> binary doesn't exist. I think that's been the case for as long as > >> Linux has existed. > > That's already reported as bug #609882. > I think that's askin

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Timo Weingärtner writes: > Hallo Russ Allbery, >> I think that's asking quite a lot of bash. Wouldn't it have to open >> the binary and parse the ELF headers, extracting the INTERP header, in >> order to verify that? Does it really make sense to encode >> understanding of ELF binary layout form

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Timo Weingärtner
Hallo Russ Allbery, 2013-01-03 um 19:26:46 schriebst Du: > Timo Weingärtner writes: > > 2013-01-03 um 18:32:28 schrieb Russ Allbery: > >> Alexey Eromenko writes: > >>> User error? Huh ? > >>> > >>> No ! This is a Debian Bug ! > >>> Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DO

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Timo Weingärtner writes: > 2013-01-03 um 18:32:28 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> Alexey Eromenko writes: >>> User error? Huh ? >>> No ! This is a Debian Bug ! >>> Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DOES EXIST. >>> This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. > I guess it is bash tel

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > clone 697270 -1 Bug #697270 {Done: Holger Levsen } [general] PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64 Bug 697270 cloned as bug 697299 > retitle -1 misleading error message when ELF interpreter does not exist Bug #697299 {Done: Holger Levsen } [g

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Timo Weingärtner
clone 697270 -1 retitle -1 misleading error message when ELF interpreter does not exist reassign -1 bash severity -1 normal merge -1 609882 retitle 697270 i386 multiarch not enabled and ia32-libs not installed by default on amd64 severity 697270 minor tags 697270 +wontfix thanks Hi Alexey, 2013-

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to make > Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. How about changing it from a kernel bug to tasksel feature ? I recommend: "tasksel" to install 32-bit libraries b

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 3 janvier 2013 18.44:59, Alexey Eromenko a écrit : > But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. By the way: * Debian is not LSB-certified * ... but the lsb-* packages try to provide a working implementation. No work has been attempted to provide Multi-Arch lsb packages (

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. > This does not mean you can't run 32bit application under a 64bit Debian installation, it's because the support is not added into default installation as the feature isn't consider

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexey Eromenko writes: > But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. Debian provides LSB compliance via the lsb set of packages. Not everyone wants to have all LSB packages installed or particularly cares about LSB compliance. If you do: aptitude install lsb will install

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Gergely Nagy
Alexey Eromenko writes: > User error? Huh ? It is, I'm afraid. > No ! This is a Debian Bug ! No, it is not. > Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DOES > EXIST. It does not. However, the file the message is referring to is not the file you think it refers to: it is mi

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/04/2013 01:31 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: >> apt-get install iceweasel >> >> and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... > Not, because my job requires the lates

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: >> apt-get install iceweasel >> >> and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... > > Not, because my job requ

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOJ6w=H9b9+paJGv5h0_Lp

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexey Eromenko writes: > User error? Huh ? > No ! This is a Debian Bug ! > Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DOES EXIST. > This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader for a binary doesn't exist. I think that's be

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: > apt-get install iceweasel > > and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... Not, because my job requires the latest FireFox (latest-and-greatest). And the standard Fi

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/04/2013 01:02 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > Please keep in mind, that I have wasted 4 hours of my personal time on > this Debian bug, and do you think this is reasonable ? > It all depends. How did you even install Firefox 32 bits? We don't have such a package in Debian. It's rebranded as "ic

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
Please keep in mind, that I have wasted 4 hours of my personal time on this Debian bug, and do you think this is reasonable ? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.d

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
User error? Huh ? No ! This is a Debian Bug ! Debian clearly says: "File does not exist", while in fact it DOES EXIST. This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Gergelzzzzzzzzzz Nagy
Holger Levsen writes: > Hi Gergely, > > if you take the effort to reassign to general, why dont you lower the > severity > as well? > > And, if you explain how this is a user error, why dont you close it straight > away? Because I haven't slept this year yet, and I forgot to change the Cc: to

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gergelzz :-) On Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2013, Gergelzz Nagy wrote: > Because I haven't slept this year yet, and I forgot to change the Cc: to > -done@, and there's been about 5 minutes between the Control: header and > the rest of my mail, during which I completely forgot about th

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gergely, if you take the effort to reassign to general, why dont you lower the severity as well? And, if you explain how this is a user error, why dont you close it straight away? cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

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2013-01-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 general Bug #697270 [kernel-image] PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64 Warning: Unknown package 'kernel-image' Bug reassigned from package 'kernel-image' to 'general'. No longer marked as found in versions 3.2.0. Ignoring request to alter fixed vers