Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:05:58AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:03, Robert Millan wrote: > > Unclaimed patents are precisely the reason we don't have any MPEG encoders > > in Debian (see http://techliberation.com/2006/05/11/mpeg-patent-thicket/). > > Wrong.

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:03, Robert Millan wrote: > Unclaimed patents are precisely the reason we don't have any MPEG encoders > in Debian (see http://techliberation.com/2006/05/11/mpeg-patent-thicket/). Wrong. We dont have mpeg encoders in Debian because those patents are being enforce

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:08:38PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > > You're absolutely right, it's a clone, albeit one officially endorsed by > those being cloned. My package description is sourced from a > debian-multimedia package, I'll post a replacement to the ITP shortly. Thanks. > However, one

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-06 Thread Jo Shields
Hi, On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 15:24 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > Hi, > > The description is misleading. This is (AFAICT) not an implementation of a > standard but a clone product, like wine, and much like wine it lags behind to > the real one. Please make that clear in the description to avoid lea

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 03:33:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > [2] http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/moonlight.mspx Btw, an independent analisys of that covenant is available: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080528133529454 -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 03:24:26PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > Description : open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight > > > > [...] > > Hi, > > The description is misleading. This is (AFAICT) not an implementation of a > standard but a clone product, like wine, and much li

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
According to the authors of Moonlight [1], this software is covered by patents owned by Microsoft, which has rules specificaly forbidding re-distribution to parties that are "Downstream recipients" [2]. This seems to indicate it would be illegal for Debian developers in the US to: - Use Moonli

Re: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight -- open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 01:07:16PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Jo Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: moon > Version : 0.8.1 > Upstream Author : Everaldo Canuto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and others > * URL : http://www