Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-29 Thread Philip Charles
On Monday 29 October 2007 23:42, MJ Ray wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: > > > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that > > > restriction. > > > > If I have understood things correctly, in England (and

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-29 Thread MJ Ray
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: > > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction. > > If I have understood things correctly, in England (and the rest of the > UK?) the copyright is owned by the crown and

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:42:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 17:04 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > > the > > > conventional sense. The

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 17:04 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > the > > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > > University Press) has an excl

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Isabel Drost wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Steve Greenland wrote: >> Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are >> many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law >> somewhere in the world. > > Just a tiny example: I guess, Debian still con

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/07 09:36, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: >>> The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in >>> the >>> convention

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Isabel Drost
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Steve Greenland wrote: > Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are > many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law > somewhere in the world. Just a tiny example: I guess, Debian still contains many packages that cont

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2007-10-23 kello 09:44 -0500, Steve Greenland kirjoitti: > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction. If I have understood things correctly, in England (and the rest of the UK?) the copyright is owned by the crown and therefore it is the crown that sets the license. I

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
On 23 Oct 2007, at 15:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in the conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge University Press) has an exclusive commercial right to

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:44:51AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > But the license on the package itself doesn't make that restriction. > Mere local law shouldn't make a package DFSG non-free. I'd bet there are > many packages in Debian whose distribution or use violates local law > somewhere in

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Oct-07, 09:04 (CDT), Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > > the > > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > > University Press

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2007-10-23 kello 12:35 +0100, Matthew Vernon kirjoitti: > The Authorized Version of the Bible isn't covered by Copyright in > the > conventional sense. The Queen's Printer (currently Cambridge > University Press) has an exclusive commercial right to print the AV > (and the BCP, but that's

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, On 23 Oct 2007, at 11:52, Enrico Zini wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:16:13AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: Since I'm not at all familiar with the legacy of copyright laws around the British Royal Family, I'm setting the severity to normal, using 'could' in the subject and Cc-ing debian-d

Re: Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:16:13AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > Since I'm not at all familiar with the legacy of copyright laws around > the British Royal Family, I'm setting the severity to normal, using > 'could' in the subject and Cc-ing debian-devel. But I thought the issue > was worth raising

Bug#447712: Package could be non-free in the United Kingdom

2007-10-23 Thread Enrico Zini
Package: bible-kjv-text Severity: normal Hello, I was browsing Wikipedia after visiting a special exibition about the history of the Bible in the United Kingdom and I stumbled on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status "The terms of the letters patent prohibit