On Wed, Apr 04, 2007, Christoph Berg wrote:
> What about supporting a variable DEBCHANGE_TZ in ~/.devscripts that
> lets the user set UTC, but defaults to $TZ?
Uh, isn't alias dch='TZ=UTC dch' good enough?
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:58:28PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> What about supporting a variable DEBCHANGE_TZ in ~/.devscripts that
> lets the user set UTC, but defaults to $TZ?
That would be a one-size-fits-all solution I would like.
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Re: Stefano Zacchiroli 2007-04-02 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason, and the point of uniforming a timezone so that it's
> easier to compare dates among different changelog is definitely a valid
> one.
If we want to (
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:11:23PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason, and the point of uniforming a timezone so that it's
> easier to compare dates among different changelog is definitely a valid
> one.
I
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Wouter> Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:40:46 +0100
Wouter> You didn't fail basic math, did you? ;-)
Just remember to subtract 1 hour, don't add it.
I could imagine people getting this wrong.
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On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:11:23PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason, and the point of uniforming a timezone so that it's
> easier to compare dates among different changelog is definitely a valid
> one.
I
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:49:44PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Hmm and my gut feeling is that the vast majority of maintainers just use
> dch instead of manually writing the changelog skeleton (it's faster and
> less error prone). But until we have verifiable numbers it's all moot.
I tend to
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius schrieb:
> > My gut feeling is that there's more people who edit the timestamp
> > manually than those who compare them mentally, so I'm in favor of
> > maintaining status quo.
>
> Hmm and my gut feeling is that the vast majority of main
Lars Wirzenius schrieb:
> My gut feeling is that there's more people who edit the timestamp
> manually than those who compare them mentally, so I'm in favor of
> maintaining status quo.
Hmm and my gut feeling is that the vast majority of maintainers just use
dch instead of manually writing the cha
On ma, 2007-04-02 at 19:26 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> Given how easy it is to canonicalise the timestamp data, the fact that
> it's data loss and the questionable utility of the information why is it
> worth it?
Maintaining status quo is easy. Making programs that compare timestamps
understand tim
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:11:23PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason, and the point of uniforming a timezone so that it's
> easier to compare dates among different changelog is definitely a valid
> one.
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > $ D="$(zgrep "^ -- " /usr/share/doc/apt/changelog.Debian.gz | \
> > > head -1 | sed "s/^.*> //")"
> > $ date -uRd "$D"
>
> "Trivial" is something I can do without having the need of thinking
> about an implementation of it. I guess you spent a couple of minutes
> wri
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason
It's nice to know if an upload was made at 4:30 am local time, va 6 pm local
time. It says something about the possible condition of the uploader.
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On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 01:37:23PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > This is a nice idea. I think it should also be discussed on
> > debian-devel and debian-policy.
>
> CCing -devel. For -policy I think it is too early (usualy, common practice is
> stablished before Policy enforces it).
>
> Also
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:49:54 +0200
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > That is not really a valid reason either because converting a timestamp
> > from a changelog entry to any other timezone or format is trivial:
> >
> >
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> That is not really a valid reason either because converting a timestamp
> from a changelog entry to any other timezone or format is trivial:
>
> $ D="$(zgrep "^ -- " /usr/share/doc/apt/changelog.Debian.gz | \
> > head -1 | sed "s/^.*>
On Monday 02 April 2007 15:11, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I share the feeling of "niceness" of the personal touch, but this isn't
> a technical reason, and the point of uniforming a timezone so that it's
> easier to compare dates among different changelog is definitely a valid
> one.
That is not
On Monday 02 April 2007 14:11, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Robert Millan 2007-04-02 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > Since dates written to changelogs are going to be read by people all
> > > > over the world, IMHO it is better if these dates are in UTC to make
> > > > it easier to figure out when it
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:11:51PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> > > > Since dates written to changelogs are going to be read by people all
> > > > over the
> > > > world, IMHO it is better if these dates are in UTC to make it easier to
> > > > figure out when it was uploaded in comparison to oth
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:11:51PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Robert Millan 2007-04-02 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Since dates written to changelogs are going to be read by people all
> > > > over the
> > > > world, IMHO it is better if these dates are in UTC to make it easier to
> > > > f
Re: Robert Millan 2007-04-02 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Since dates written to changelogs are going to be read by people all over
> > > the
> > > world, IMHO it is better if these dates are in UTC to make it easier to
> > > figure out when it was uploaded in comparison to other events (such as the
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:32:22AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:48:13AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > Package: devscripts
> > Version: 2.9.26
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Tags: patch
> >
> > Since dates written to changelogs are going to be read by people all over
> >
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