Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 06:10:16PM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or > > enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) > > Yes, a lot of modern soundc

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Dunham wrote: > The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or > enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) Yes, my adaptec 152x card is PnP. hint: don't use isapnp after booting from a PnP scsi-card! Wichert. --

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only isapnp devices I know of are audio. Are there any SCSI or > enet devices? (If so a table would be necessary as they are discovered.) Yes, a lot of modern soundcards include an IDE controller, that is usually configured with PnP. Also, my curre

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Steve Dunham
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 11:45:56AM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. > > > To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Steve Dunham
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things > > > to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI d

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 10:02:21AM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: > This is, if I recall, exactly what initrd was made for. Your bootloader > (eg. lilo) loads an initial ramdisk containing all the kernel modules you > might need. An init script on the ramdisk loads the right modules (however > you

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things > to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was > necessary to have all the scsi controlers "built in" to the kernel, hense > its larg

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 11:45:56AM -0500, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. > > To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do the device selection, > > other than going through a

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have wondered why we didn't try this once the kernel supported initrd. > To be honest I haven't figured out yet how to do the device selection, > other than going through a list of drivers, trying to insmod each one > until you are successful. Wouldn't P

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things > > to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was > > necessary to have all the scsi c

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Jun 12, 1998 at 12:25:59AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:13:37PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > > Using initrd, our default kernel may be reduced to half its current size, > > as all those different controllers may be built as modules and only the > > required o

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 03:13:37PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > Using initrd, our default kernel may be reduced to half its current size, > as all those different controllers may be built as modules and only the > required ones will be loaded at boot time. That will save our users a few > hundre

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things > to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was > necessary to have all the scsi controlers "built in" to the kernel, hense > its large

Re: Bootint big kernels was Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-11 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Another solution is the one that slackware provides. They build a "bunch" > of kernels, each one for a specific hardware configuration (broad enought > to cover a range of hardware, and chosen to keep incopatibly drivers out > of the picture {like the wd9

Bootint big kernels was Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions & removals.)

1998-06-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 09:17:20PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > When you boot the kernel it copies the Image from the disk to 0x1000 > > (about 64k). If the Image is beyond 600k then you have a problem because > > it suddenly will not all fit in lo