Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-09-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > if [ -e  /etc/pam.d/login ]; then >   perl -pli~ -e 'm/session.*pam_selinux.so/ && s/^\#\s*//o' > /etc/pam.d/login rm /etc/pam.d/login~ > fi > if [ -e /etc/pam.d/ssh ]; then >   perl -pli~ -e 'm/session.*pam_selinux.so/ && do { s/^\#\s*//o; > s/multip

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 03:29:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Thanks for the git repo pointer. I appreciate the opportunity to > look at the kinds of changes you have needed, and will see if I can > incorporate them into the next version of devotee I am (stalled on) > writing. T

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 25 2009, Luk Claes wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for >> Squeeze. >> >> Developer assiociated: Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, >> but I have not discussed this with

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 25 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:07:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hmm? Why haven't these patches been sent upstream, then? I have >> been also working at devotee-ng, which will have a plug-in >> architecture, to allow votes to add in d

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for > Squeeze. > > Developer assiociated: Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, > but I have not discussed this with him) > Issues to be solved: >(a) Get all De

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 02:50:32PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote: > Zack has been patching devotee to allow more informal (and not at all > binding) polls to be run with the same infrastructure. I think this > could be a suitable candidate to run using that. It allows us to have a > poll which can o

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:07:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hmm? Why haven't these patches been sent upstream, then? I have > been also working at devotee-ng, which will have a plug-in > architecture, to allow votes to add in dfferent pre-processing stacks > (mime/gpg-decrypt, v

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-08-04, Anthony Towns wrote: > So make it easy to maintain... Attached is an example converting it to > yaml with python table generation, coping with waivers. I deployed that now. Result available on [1], still quite some question marks, though. Kind regards, Philipp Kern [1] http://re

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks, >with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less >cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... Personally, I think the last thin

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > > Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release > > date. > > We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, > > but > > I don't think we sho

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Anthony Towns said: > Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks, > with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less > cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... Is there some reason we need something as heav

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Anthony Towns dijo [Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000]: > So, with August almost half-way over, I guess the release team's not > going to be doing much more to seek input from non-key teams/developers. > > I still think it'd be interesting and useful to get broader input, > though. Something l

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >> Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release >> date. >> We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, >> but >> I don't think we should

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release > date. > We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, > but > I don't think we should push a freeze. Zack has been patching devotee to al

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:39:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: About freeze timing we think that DebConf should definitely not fall into a freeze We noticed that releases in the first quarter of the year worked o

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > > > > We'll be consulting all key teams within Debian to see how their plans > > > and schedules can fit into a new timeline. Before the end of August we > > > hope to

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:39:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > > About freeze timing we think that DebConf should definitely not fall > > into a freeze > > We noticed that releases in the first quarter of the year > > worked out quite

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-04 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi Anthony, On 2009-08-04, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:09:14PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: >> I'm grateful for those suggestions, Anthony. That page is just a pain >> to maintain though. Not everything on it is up-to-date yet but I updated >> quite some chunks. > So make it

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:09:14PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > I'm grateful for those suggestions, Anthony. That page is just a pain > to maintain though. Not everything on it is up-to-date yet but I updated > quite some chunks. So make it easy to maintain... Attached is an example converting i

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > > with something like Users: "45 (w)" to save space. Having > > (w) link to a list post explaining the waiver would > > probably be helpful for people who'd like to understand > > why armel gets a waiver for

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-04 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi Anthony, On 2009-08-03, Anthony Towns wrote: > So arm's dropped off that page, kfreebsd-* have been bumped to "TBD", > and alpha, hppa are still accompanied by ia64, powerpc, mips and s390 as > being "at risk". There's lots of fields with just a "?" -- apparently > there's no info on whether t

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-03 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Montag, den 03.08.2009, 16:51 + schrieb Anthony Towns: > amd64 has d-i support, surely? it did for lenny, despite lenny's > page... Yes it does and still works fine (at least for me). -- Felix Zielcke Proud Debian Maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-d

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:39:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > So, http://release.debian.org/squeeze/arch_qualify.html lists kfreebsd-* > and m68k as not release candidates, and arm, ia64, mips and powerpc as > "at risk" in addition to alpha and hppa. Only m68k is listed as having > RM concerns.

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-01 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Aurelien Jarno schrieb: >> The press release not only mentions release goals but also >> "infrastructure goals" ftpmaster would like to have done by then. > Then, maybe the ftpmasters should communicate through > debian-devel-announce *in addition* to the press releases. To the best of my kn

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > The press team are still announcing [1] this as a "decision to adopt the > policy of timed release freezes beginning with the next release", while > RT maintain that it is under consideration. Which is true? Both! ;-) Or the latter, ta

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Developer assiociated: Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, > but I have not discussed this with him) I will be involved in this, but I find it difficult to get enough free time. > Issues to be solved: >(a) G

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Jul 30 2009, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, >> >>        I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for >>  Squeeze. >> >>  Developer assiociated:  Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, >>                        

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:58:14PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Aurelien Jarno schrieb: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > >> The following goals for Squeeze have been identified up to now: > [ some stuff ] > > > And according to the press releas

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > Architectures > = > As some of you might have noticed, we added the architectures > kfreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64 to testing. [...] > However, two architectures also have issues we need to bring to your > attention: We sent

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Aurelien Jarno schrieb: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: >> The following goals for Squeeze have been identified up to now: [ some stuff ] > And according to the press release: [ some more stuff ] The press release not only mentions release goals but also "infras

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >        I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for >  Squeeze. > >  Developer assiociated:  Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, >                         but I have not discussed this with him) >  Issues to

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I would like to set up a selinux related release goal for Squeeze. Developer assiociated: Manoj Srivastava (Perhaps also Russell Coker, but I have not discussed this with him) Issues to be solved: (a) Get all Debian patches to the reference security pol

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Thu 30 Jul 2009 19:41:42 +0200, a écrit : > > Architectures > > = > > > > As some of you might have noticed, we added the architectures > > kfreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64 to testing. This is not a promise > > that they will be part of Squeeze, but we consider it r

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > sorry for sending out this mail so late. It should have gone out a bit > earlier, but the delay allowed us to update our views on the timeline > based on the feedback we received by the community - see below for > details. Was it re

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > time-based freezes > == > > For the squeeze release (and future releases), we are considering a > time-based freeze, meaning that the freeze will happen at a predictable > and predetermined time with the release happening

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, > The following goals for Squeeze have been identified up to now: >  * multiarch >  * boot performance >  * high quality packages (piuparts clean and other QA subgoals) >  * prepare for the new package formats >  * remove obsolete libraries >  * add kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 >  * full I

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > The following goals for Squeeze have been identified up to now: > * multiarch > * boot performance > * high quality packages (piuparts clean and other QA subgoals) > * prepare for the new package formats > * remove obsolete libraries

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-07-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(Torn between replying to -project for the former, -devel for the latter.) Luk Claes (30/07/2009): > Adam D. Barratt (adsb), Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) and Jurij > Smakov (jurij) joined us as release assistants. Let's welcome them in > our team. Welcome! > Architectures > = >