Hi,
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:31:16 +0200, Raphael Hertzog
> wrote:
> >The only thing we are waiting currently
> >for is a lintian upload where #871575 [3] is fixed (and then we need the
> >backport to be installed on ftp-master).
>
> #871575 was fixed a mon
On 09/18/2017 11:26 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:53:43PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
>>> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
>>> with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
>>> this which I hope would be enou
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:31:16 +0200, Raphael Hertzog
wrote:
>The only thing we are waiting currently
>for is a lintian upload where #871575 [3] is fixed (and then we need the
>backport to be installed on ftp-master).
#871575 was fixed a month ago. Is there any status on ftp-master
having the new v
Hi Paul,
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 06:20:24PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Could anybody provide VMs as a service to a group of DDs?
>
> Several companies provide hosting for Debian services:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/ServicesHosting#Outside_the_Debian_infrastructure
My point was: I was supporte
On Thu, 2017-10-12 at 12:04 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Could anybody provide VMs as a service to a group of DDs?
Several companies provide hosting for Debian services:
https://wiki.debian.org/ServicesHosting#Outside_the_Debian_infrastructure
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pabs
https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:45:32AM +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Mike Gabriel schrieb am Tuesday, dem 10. October 2017:
>
> > So, indeed the
> > question is, why DSA cannot provide a VM or physical machine to a group of
> > DDs and trust th
Mike Gabriel schrieb am Tuesday, dem 10. October 2017:
> So, indeed the
> question is, why DSA cannot provide a VM or physical machine to a group of
> DDs and trust this group regarding the server maintenance?
DSA is not in the business of p
On Mo 18 Sep 2017 13:34:49 CEST, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:22:34AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 01:57:31AM +0100, peter green wrote:
> Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they
don't need a place to discuss issues relatin
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 07:57:29AM +0200, Alex Muntada wrote:
> Noah Meyerhans:
>
> > Maybe we could create a mailing list to coordinate this effort.
>
> There's alioth-staff-replacement@list.a.d.o that may already fit
> that purpose.
Thanks for pointing this out. I've joined and will post a sum
Hi,
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 05:38:55PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>
> The maintainer e-mail address is listed not only on packages.debian.org
> but also on "dpkg -s ..." et. al. Users send support e-mail there. Imho
> either the mailing lists need to run a lot longer (possibly until
> stretch
Hi,
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Instead we should use @packages.debian.org. But for this we
> > need a lintian upload and a lintian backport to be installed on
> > ftp-master:
>
> Er, that would create a mail loop. @packages.debian.org
> redirects to the data of the maintainer
Noah Meyerhans:
> Maybe we could create a mailing list to coordinate this effort.
There's alioth-staff-replacement@list.a.d.o that may already fit
that purpose.
Cheers,
Alex
[1] https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/alioth-staff-replacement
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On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:43:46AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
> >> with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
> >> this which I hope would be enough time to develop and implement a migration
> >
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:35:03AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > the other big challenge is to provide something that lasts "forever". I
> > trust
> > DSA with that
>
> Which is ironic, since the service is being dropped while the addresses are
> sti
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:35:03AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
the other big challenge is to provide something that lasts "forever". I trust
DSA with that
Which is ironic, since the service is being dropped while the addresses
are still being published.
Mike Stone
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 03:16:23PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 02:55:26PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > > Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > > - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> > > > that,
El 19/09/17 a las 15:16, Wouter Verhelst escribió:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 02:55:26PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Hello Axel,
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > > Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > > - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> > > >
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 02:55:26PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hello Axel,
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Axel Beckert wrote:
> > Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> > > that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well s
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 01:22:55PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> Not doing something "central" just because it won't be perfect, or not
> supported by DSA, will not prevent things from happening, it will just
> force them to happen in a distributed, uncoordinated way, wasting way
> more resources for
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:35:03 +, Holger Levsen
wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:43:46AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>> How high are the requirements (CPU-, Memory) wise? I guess that one of
>> those 5 Euros a month VPSses with 50 Gig Disk and 8 GB RAM would not
>> be enough?
>[...]
>> I don't se
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:26:54PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:53:43PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
> > > with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
> > > this wh
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:43:46AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > How high are the requirements (CPU-, Memory) wise? I guess that one of
> > those 5 Euros a month VPSses with 50 Gig Disk and 8 GB RAM would not
> > be enough?
> [...]
> > I don't see running
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:42:20 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
> wrote:
> >Would it be possible with reasonable effort to synchronize spam filtering
> >configuration from lists.debian.org to that potential new mailing list
> >server?
>
> The problem is that lis
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 09:43:46AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> How high are the requirements (CPU-, Memory) wise? I guess that one of
> those 5 Euros a month VPSses with 50 Gig Disk and 8 GB RAM would not
> be enough?
[...]
> I don't see running the Mailing list server the biggest challenge.
> Provi
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:42:20 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
wrote:
>Would it be possible with reasonable effort to synchronize spam filtering
>configuration from lists.debian.org to that potential new mailing list server?
The problem is that lists.debian.org doesn't run Mailman.
Grüße
Marc
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Alexander Wirt - 19.09.17, 10:17:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:53:43 +0200, Alexander Wirt
> >
> > wrote:
> > >On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> > >> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly
> > >> familiar
> > >> with
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:53:43 +0200, Alexander Wirt
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> >> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
> >> with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:53:43 +0200, Alexander Wirt
wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
>> with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
>> this which I hope would be enough time
Hi,
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Would any of those solutions also email the uploaders or recent people
> in d/changelog? This would be helpful for NMU as well as for
> team-maintained packages in a large team.
No, not yet. But in both cases, it's a matter of adding code to the
pa
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:53:43PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
> > with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
> > this which I hope would be enough time to develop and implement a migration
>
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:22:34AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 01:57:31AM +0100, peter green wrote:
> > > Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they don't need
> > > a place to discuss issues relating
❦ 18 septembre 2017 14:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog :
> Hum, that documentation is a bit outdated. What you have to use is
> actually dispatch+@tracker.debian.org. But I would not want
> people to use this email address in Maintainer fields.
>
> Instead we should use @packages.debian.org. But for t
Dominic Hargreaves:
> I am willing to step up to help keep lists.alioth.debian.org running
> as a standalone service using mailman. It seems like it is yet to be
> resolved whether this is a long-term strategic option, but this
> thread demonstrates the many practical reason that we should aim to
Hi,
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Paul Wise wrote:
> If the Maintainer field is going to be completely deterministic based
> on the package name, we should probably just change dak/BTS/etc to
> mail those addresses instead of making dak put those addresses in
> Maintainer fields in Sources/Packages or upda
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Instead we should use @packages.debian.org.
If the Maintainer field is going to be completely deterministic based
on the package name, we should probably just change dak/BTS/etc to
mail those addresses instead of making dak put those addre
Hello Axel,
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Axel Beckert wrote:
> Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> > that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served
> > by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes.
>
>
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:22:34AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 01:57:31AM +0100, peter green wrote:
> > Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they don't need a
> > place to discuss issues relating to their activities, some of which do not
> > relate t
Hi,
Alexander Wirt wrote:
> - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served
> by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes.
Reading https://tracker.debian.org/docs/about.html#email-int
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 01:57:31AM +0100, peter green wrote:
> Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they don't need a
> place to discuss issues relating to their activities, some of which do not
> relate to any one particular package. Contributers should be able to
> self-or
On 17/09/17 10:38, Alexander Wirt wrote:
If you currently manage a user-support or discussion list, or run one
of the big teams
Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they don't need a
place to discuss issues relating to their activities, some of which do not
relate to any
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served
> by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes. For
> larger teams, such as
On 2017-09-17 Alexander Wirt wrote:
[...]
> - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served
> by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes. For
> larger teams, such as the Debian P
Alexander Wirt wrote:
> As the Alioth system is not something that we as a project have the will
> and manpower to maintain in its current form, we held a sprint [sprint]
> last month in Hamburg, Germany, and discussed options and the future of
> the several services currently provided by Alioth.
Alexander Wirt:
> - Distribution lists for use in the Maintainer: field. We suggest
> that, with maybe some extra code, this use-case could be well served
> by the tracker.debian.org service for almost all purposes. For
> larger teams, such as the Debian Perl Group, a list on lists.debian.
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