Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-07-12 19:33:15 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > We don't have nvidia hardware, so maybe our perception is flawed. If > people think we should keep that driver, please explain why. If the > reason is "nouveau doesn't work for me", we'll ignore your reply unless > it comes with a bugs.freedes

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:31:56 -0400 (EDT), Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Care to share a reference to the bug you reported? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589452 -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debi

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:36:10 -0400 (EDT), Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> ... I didn't ask for an UMS-related bug reference. For some reason I was under the impression that KMS drivers were limited to modes which can be set by the video BIOS. I stand corrected. A bug report wil

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Dienstag, 13. Juli 2010, Julien Cristau wrote: > > I would say that you should ask for adoption or help maintaining the > > package. > What is this supposed to mean? he missed all the X strike force requests for help, I'd say. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 19:41:13 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2010 20:33:15 Julien Cristau wrote: > > We don't have nvidia hardware, so maybe our perception is flawed. > I would say that you should ask for adoption or help maintaining the package. > What is this supposed to

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
On Monday 12 July 2010 20:33:15 Julien Cristau wrote: > We don't have nvidia hardware, so maybe our perception is flawed. I would say that you should ask for adoption or help maintaining the package. Bye -- Salvo Tomaselli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
> On 2010-07-13 04:31 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I designed a custom video mode for 1024x768 @ 100 Hz Interlaced > > that is even better. (100 Hz is the maximum vertical refresh rate > > of the monitor). This mode is still within the video bandwidth of > > the monitor (maximum supported pi

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Stephen Powell (13/07/2010): > Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Care to share a reference to the bug you reported? > As Sven Joachim has pointed out, this would be an exercise in > futility. Upstream deliberately removed support for UMS a while > ago. Guess what, I *know*. And I didn't ask for an UMS-

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-07-13 04:31 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: > Second, I can't seem to get an 80-column virtual console with KMS. > Yes, I can change the font size, but the traditional 80-column display > doesn't seem to present itself. Maybe I just haven't tried hard enough. It's not possible with a horizo

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Brice Goglin
Le 13/07/2010 17:11, Stephen Powell a écrit : > As of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-4, which is current in Squeeze, > and for the i915G chipset, I can still pass > >modeset=0 > > to the i915 module and the X driver will still work. Are you saying that > this is going to be taken away from m

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Stephen Powell
Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Care to share a reference to the bug you reported? Ben Hutchings wrote: > I assume you've filed a bug requesting support for custom modes, as > requested by the X maintainers? As Sven Joachim has pointed out, this would be an exercise in futility. Upstream deliberately rem

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 22:31 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: [...] > But I can't get the nouveau driver > to use my custom 100 Hz Interlaced mode, or even the VESA standard 87 Hz > Interlaced mode. It insists on running the monitor at 60 Hz > non-interlaced. And my eyes just won't take that for very

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Stephen Powell (12/07/2010): > But I can't get the nouveau driver to use my custom 100 Hz > Interlaced mode, or even the VESA standard 87 Hz Interlaced mode. > It insists on running the monitor at 60 Hz non-interlaced. And my > eyes just won't take that for very long. At 100 Hz interlaced, I > c

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:24:56 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-07-12 21:09 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: >> If nouveau set KMS by default, as the intel driver does, but did not >> *require* KMS, I would agree. But the last time I checked, using the nouveau >> driver *forces* KMS. I don't

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 08:05:25PM +, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-07-12 21:09 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: > > > If nouveau set KMS by default, as the intel driver does, but did not > > *require* KMS, I would agree. But the last time I checked, using the > > nouveau > > driver *forces* KMS

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-07-12 21:09 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: > If nouveau set KMS by default, as the intel driver does, but did not > *require* KMS, I would agree. But the last time I checked, using the nouveau > driver *forces* KMS. I don't like that. I still use, and prefer, hardware > text mode virtual

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:33:15 -0400 (EDT), Julien Cristau wrote: > > We're considering the removal of xserver-xorg-video-nv (the "free" X > driver for nvidia hardware) from sid and squeeze. I'm replying to both debian-x and debian-devel, but I am only subscribed to debian-devel. If you post only

[RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Julien Cristau
Hi, We're considering the removal of xserver-xorg-video-nv (the "free" X driver for nvidia hardware) from sid and squeeze. Some reasons are: - the source is obfuscated [0] - nvidia stopped maintaining it [1] - nouveau seems to be mostly ready to replace it, although it has some pains, including