Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-16 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Ian Jackson | 2010-09-15 11:56:49 [+0100]: >Julien Cristau wrote: >> I'd say they're serious bugs if packages in the archive suffer from >> the misbuild, and normal ones if not. > >I agree. Okay. In that case I open this weekend bugs against the packages I identified [0] with severity serious

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Bernhard R. Link | 2010-09-15 17:05:05 [+0200]: >Or is there no lintian >run for buildd (i.e. unsourcefull) uploads yet? [0] says "Those automated rejects will only be done on sourceful uploads to unstable and experimental." So I would say no, there isn't. [0] http://ftp-master.debian.org/#r

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Bernhard R. Link , 2010-09-15, 17:05: As this is not really a new problem and easy to check for, I'm more surprised that is not yet catched by lintian. It is: package-contains-info-dir-file. And it's even on ftp-master's autoreject list. -- Jakub Wilk signature.asc Description: Digital s

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson [100915 15:54]: > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info > is installed"): > > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > > policy says "clean build environment" and havi

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed"): > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > no longer clean (thus I

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Peter Samuelson | 2010-09-14 16:19:54 [-0500]: > >[Sebastian Andrzej Siewior] >> Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the >> policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is >> no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). > >Wh

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernhard R. Link writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed"): > Packages not building in a real environment is a serious problem for our > infrastructure. Having some extremely special build environment for your > software betrays one of the most impo

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [100914 13:45]: > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). A package more installed is not a unclean b

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sebastian Andrzej Siewior] > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). Where does the policy say that? I can't find anything that

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 14:55:33 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Cyril Brulebois , 2010-09-14, 12:00: > >>So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to > >>avoid further problems :) > > > >packages really ought to build if that package is installed… > > Should these kind of bugs (FT

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Cyril Brulebois , 2010-09-14, 12:00: So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed… Should these kind of bugs (FTBFS or producing broken packages in non-clean environment) be considered R

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:11:14PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > * Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]: > > >install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is > >not possible that it was installed at some point. Oops my fault. I wanted to say "not impossi

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:53:20 [+0200]: >Sebastian Andrzej Siewior (14/09/2010): >> > packages really ought to build if that package is installed??? >> This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this >> file. > >Sorry, I should have been more explicit: build *properl

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior (14/09/2010): > > packages really ought to build if that package is installed… > This is true. However you can't install two packages containing this > file. Sorry, I should have been more explicit: build *properly*, i.e. do what's needed to avoid shipping that file in t

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Cyril Brulebois | 2010-09-14 12:10:01 [+0200]: >Hi, Hi, >Sebastian Andrzej Siewior (14/09/2010): >> So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid >> further problems :) > >packages really ought to build if that package is installed??? This is true. However you can't inst

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Aurelien Jarno | 2010-09-14 11:59:51 [+0200]: >install-info is not present on the kfreebsd-i386 buildds, though it is >not possible that it was installed at some point. Maybe it got removed in the meantime. If you look at [0] you see dir.gz. If you look at build log from himalia1[1] and grep fo

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior (14/09/2010): > So this is to let you know, to remove this package in order to avoid > further problems :) packages really ought to build if that package is installed… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > Hello, > > I just built docbook2x and gettext and both contained the file mentioned > in subject. install-info created dir which got gzip later in the build > process. The strance thing is the almost none of the buildds s

/usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-14 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Hello, I just built docbook2x and gettext and both contained the file mentioned in subject. install-info created dir which got gzip later in the build process. The strance thing is the almost none of the buildds ship this file. According to [0] only s390(lxdebian) ships this file in gettext and qi