Re: Bits from the Debian GNU/Hurd porters

2014-05-22 Thread heroxbd
Hey Michael, Michael Banck writes: > This is an update to the last Debian GNU/Hurd bits from February > 2012[0] > [...] Thank you very much for this comprehensive wrap up. I am excited to see these advancements around GNU/Hurd, so excited that I am seriously planning to install it on my prima

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Dear Kevin, Kevin Chadwick writes: > The benefit that Linux and even firefox etc. has gained from OpenBSD's > practically paranoid bug fixing as well as finding the bugs for all the > platforms it's userland still runs on especially in compiler tools > should be realised and not underestimated.

Balance of portability and maintenance burden (Re: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Hey Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > That's correct. However, the problem with kFreeBSD is that I - as a > package maintainer - have to invest extra time to make sure my > packages don't FTBFS on these architectures as otherwise my packages > wouldn't be allowed to migrate to testing.

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: >>> So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to >>> track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable >>> and hacky? >> >> I bet you are going to tell me

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to > track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable > and hacky? I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way to track the state of a ser

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread heroxbd
Hey Ondřej, Ondřej Surý writes: > I have split openrc into openrc and openrc-sysv moving the conflicting > parts to openrc-sysv on my system, and it install just fine, but running > script with /sbin/openrc-run needs: > > mkdir -p /run/openrc > touch /run/openrc/softlevel > > and then it still d

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread heroxbd
Hi Tollef, Tollef Fog Heen writes: > It's probably better to just contribute your changes to the sysv-rc > version and so make that one able to manage openrc in addition to the > others it already knows how to. No point in forking it. Forking was a decision made by me in the early phase of pac

Re: Upstart support for LSB headers (Two line init.d scripts? Sure, that will work!)

2014-02-07 Thread heroxbd
Sergey B Kirpichev writes: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/monit.html > Usually, you want to start this service last and stop first. The question is, before or after rc.local? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: File naming of scripts in /etc/init.d

2014-02-05 Thread heroxbd
Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > Before concurrent running of init.d scripts were implemented in sysv-rc, > the .sh scripts would be sourced by /etc/init.d/rc and /etc/init.d/rcS > while the non-.sh scripts would be executed. This distinciton were > removed when sysv-rc started to run scripts in pa

Re: porting OpenRC on kFreeBSD and Hurd

2014-01-25 Thread heroxbd
Hey Svante, Svante Signell writes: > Good news: openrc now boots fine on GNU/Hurd with a patched sysvinit, > see #721917 Good job! > and soon to be updated patches of openrc (0.12.4+20131230-7) side note: 0.12.4+20131230-7 is already in tree http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openrc/news/20140

Re: porting OpenRC on kFreeBSD and Hurd

2014-01-25 Thread heroxbd
Hey Svante, Svante Signell writes: > Good news: openrc now boots fine on GNU/Hurd with a patched sysvinit, > see #721917 Good job! > and soon to be updated patches of openrc (0.12.4+20131230-7) side note: 0.12.4+20131230-7 is already in tree http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openrc/news/20140

Re: porting OpenRC to Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2013-10-30 Thread heroxbd
Thomas Goirand writes: > I'm very happy to tell everyone that this is *FIXED* !!! > > http://youtu.be/zoNoi8BgQjs > > :D :D :D Wow. That's absolutely great zigo! Although the "Caching service dependencies" seems to be a regression to me months ago, where the cache should be generated only once

Re: debian ova instance generator

2013-10-10 Thread heroxbd
Dear Lars, Lars Wirzenius writes: > You can also just create usr/sbin/policy-rc.d as a shell script that > exits with 101, which may or may not be easier to deal with. Like > this: > > cat < "$rootdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" > #!/bin/sh > exit 101 > EOF > chmod a+x "$rootdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d"

debian ova instance generator

2013-10-06 Thread heroxbd
Dear fellows, This is a simple Makefile which generates ova[1] of customized debian, inpired by an ova build script of sagemath[2], and a guide from archlinux[5]. It is a by-product of AireLinux[3], a customized Debian for astrophysics. It basically creates a hdd image with debian debootstrappe

modern features and OpenRC (was: Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Dear all, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > Says the guy who posted this to back up his chain of arguments: > >> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Comparison_of_init_systems Excuse me for hijacking this reply. On the wiki page. I revised it into present form last year, after a *shadow* surve

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Dear Russ, Russ Allbery writes: > I would *hope* a lot of Debian developers would do things like that, > for any of the options! There's no substitute for actually trying the > software and seeing how easy it is to use, how well it works, and how > difficult it is to support. There are a bunch

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Hi William, William Giokas <1007...@gmail.com> writes: > * 'Graphical UI: yes': Nope. side note: it is from http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html Cheers, Benda pgpLYHGdS_e5Z.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread heroxbd
Helmut Grohne writes: > By far the more severe issue is socket activation, because it removes > the need to spell out service dependencies. We cannot infer these > dependencies later on. Instead such a wrapper must implement socket > activation in order to work correctly. This is the non-trivial

Re: openrc packaging status (Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-15 Thread heroxbd
Dear Guys, Holger Levsen writes: > one which is at least installable with apt-get + sid sources. that's > still not the case, despite 684396 being announced here a year ago. (Replying generally) There seems to be some doubts concerning why #684396 has taken a whole year without being finished.

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism

2012-08-10 Thread heroxbd
Dear Guys, Thanks a lot for the input from Marco d'Itri, Holger Levsen and Thomas Goirand, as well as Aron Xu off list. m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > openrc was recently discussed on debian-devel@ and there was a large > consensus that it is not a credible alternative to upstart and sy