Re: mlton any->all package transition breakage

2011-04-01 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > The problem there is you're trying to install and/or upgrade the sid one, > > not the squeeze one. > > No, the squeeze package installed cleanly. now apt-get update && > upgrade breaks. That means the package is buggy. > Yes, I know i

Re: mlton any->all package transition breakage

2011-04-01 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > all the other chroots are now fucked because we did as you asked, and > for some reason it wants to bring in mlton-doc The problem there is you're trying to install and/or upgrade the sid one, not the squeeze one. > I think we won't be

mlton any->all package transition breakage

2011-03-31 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
Good afternoon. I am the maintainer for the Standard ML 97 (SML) compiler mlton. This compiler is itself written in SML and is self-hosting. Thus, it needs an older version of the compiler in order to bootstrap itself. Further complicating things, the build needs in the ballpark of 1-2GB of physic

Re: new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-30 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:54:59PM +0200, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > > If I may ask, for what purpose do the buildds have a special list of > > packages above and beyond those in unstable? > > So that in case variou

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-29 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Lennart Sorensen < lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > Does mlton-basis depend on mlton-runtime or mlton-compiler to build? > If the answer is yes, then most likely these should not be three seperate > source packages. > It's all one source package. I split it

Re: new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-29 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Note that in unstable you don't see the arch arch all version > until the arch any version is also available. Or you would see > the old arch all version until the new arch any version is > available. > That's great! My thanks to whomever ha

Re: new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-29 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > As long as the Packages file for the buildds mentions this arch > all package, no buildd can build it, because it only considers > installing the latest version. But it should get removed > from that file after 24 or 32 hours or something. I

Re: new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-29 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > As far as I can tell the problem is that you switched the mlton binary > package to 'Architecture: all'. Which means it's available on all > architectures already in the new version, even though it's not > installable. > Ahh! That makes a

new buildd dependency resolution breaks self depends?

2011-03-29 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
I've read that there was a recent change made to the buildd resolution with regards to ensuring that consistent package versions are used on the builds [0]. Is it possible that this changed also messed up self-dependency resolution? My package, mlton, has a versioned dependency on itself for versi

Build logs from local builds

2009-10-21 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
I find the buildd logs on https://buildd.debian.org/ to be extremely useful. They are nicely organized and it's easy to look back in time and see previous build problems and/or get a quick overview of the current build status. However, I find there's one piece of data that is sadly missing: the log

Re: Experimental queue?

2009-10-14 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > * Do the autobuilders build packages uploaded as experimental? (eg: to > confirm > > a successful port) > The experimental autobuilders do. I think not all archs have one. > Ok, sounds like I'll have to upload to unstable then afte

Experimental queue?

2009-10-12 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
The package MLton is a Standard ML compiler which is itself written in Standard ML. To bootstrap the package building process on a new architecture requires an initial by-hand cross-compile step (and occasionally some source-level patching). Thus, the first upload for a new architecture must be a m

Re: GPL and command-line libraries

2004-11-02 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
emselves, all power to them. I just don't want people who don't share to freeload off my work. I personally hate any kind of algorithm patent, so I wouldn't opt for that solution. I just included it as an option for completeness. -- Wesley W. Terpstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

GPL and command-line libraries

2004-11-02 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
wever, what I want to know is, if this went to court, would things like the intention and degree of dependency be considered in determining if the client was a derivative work or not? What can I do to prevent the above scenario from happening? Thank you very much for your time! -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-23 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:27:25PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wesley W. Terpstra dijo [Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 09:59:36PM +0200]: > > At this point my question is only academic; the pure-gcc in main, > > icc-prebuilt in contrib solution seems to solve my concerns just as well. >

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-20 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 02:06:46PM +0200, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 04:59:37PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > Possibly; however, I think bandwidth grows far slower than CPU speed and > > overall system power. I do understand your concern, though. >

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-20 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
ot;equivalent access" is > offered. This is certainly questionable. It would also depend on > mirroring; for example, if contrib were ever moved to a different server > (which has been debated in the past), this would become clearly false. > > My advice would be this: unless the source is incredibly huge (such as > with OO.o), then I don't think saving a few tens of MB is worth dealing > with the questions and complexities this raises. That's my conclusion too. Thanks again! -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-19 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
is a stream of measurements of some variable. My code can not presently handle this correctly, but that is future work for me. I am not a very imaginative person; I am sure there are many other situations where this could be applied. From another point of view, research doesn't *need* to be practical. ;) If other people have ideas, I'd like to hear them. -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-19 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
idn't really know why. Now I can explain it better. The proposal of keeping one version in main and one in contrib also addresses my concern about usability. So, I am happy with the outcome of this discussion already. =) -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 02:49:09AM +0200, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > find -name testing.part.\* -print0 | xargs -0 parchive a -n 16384 testing.par After taking a look in the source code for par, I found this in rs.c: |*| Calculations over a Galois Field, GF(8) What does that mean? It me

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 02:49:09AM +0200, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > I would wager that par is using the Berklekamp-Masey algorithm for decoding; That would be Berlekamp-Massey. Appologies to both. I should add their names to my spell checker. =) -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 07:45:39PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:59:42AM +0200, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > > To which, I say, wtf! > You're using it wrong. Well thank goodness, b/c otherwise that would be really awful. :) This gives me a great sou

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
. rsgt aims not to add 'parity' as I think 'par'2 is intended to suggest. Rather, it transforms a file into a stream of user-defined-size packets which goes on practically forever. ANY of the packets will do to get back the original file, as long as the sum is the same size. -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
oint my question is only academic; the pure-gcc in main, icc-prebuilt in contrib solution seems to solve my concerns just as well. -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
made other > arrangements with its copyright holders, you need to refrain from > supplying the code or binaries to anyone unless under the GPL. Oh, that's a good point. I withdrawl my offer of private pre-release. You can only have a copy after I publish. ;) Thank you for your detailed explanation and answer. -- Wesley W. Terpstra

Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-18 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
et under the GPL. Only after I publish a paper about the algorithm will the code be released under the GPL. -- Wesley W. Terpstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Fakeroot to obsolete DESTDIR

2003-04-10 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
After running into yet two more problems with staged installs ala DESTDIR, I was reminded of an idea I originally had for fink packages. ... but, let's begin from the beginning. Why is DESTDIR a problem? --- 1: libtool cannot relink inter-dependent libraries during a staged install. 2: some upst