Migration to testing blocked by broken piuparts?

2020-01-02 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi, two packages[¹, ²] I uploaded are "Rejected due to piuparts regression". I learned, that this is due to a bug in piuparts. Any solution on its way? Would I need to re-upload later? TIA & Cheers PS: Many thanks for running piuparts anyway. Such bugs happen, but the extra safety net it provide

Bug#933058: ITP: python-dbussy -- Python 3 bindings for libdbus

2019-07-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: python-dbussy Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Lawrence D'Oliveiro * URL : https://github.com/ldo/dbussy * License : LGPL-2.1+ Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: Sorce only uploads with sbuild (was: Bits from the Release Team)

2019-07-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Sean Whitton : Just `git clean -xdff && dpkg-buildpackage -S` and dput the result, or (easier) `dgit push-source`. I prefer to build only once, if possible, generating both binary and source .changes. Both in a clean chroot. Then I can try out my .debs and on success just sign and dput.

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and there is no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to buy "pro" version which doesn't contain ads and adds more features). So it's not free software anyway and does not belong to Debian m

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Jonathan Carter : It seems clear-cut enough that it doesn't really need advice from debian-legal. If it's free software then a maintainer is free to patch out any behaviour of the app that's intrusive or otherwise undesirable. If the license of the software doesn't allow that, then it's h

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : Suppose that an upstream has released a program which its license conforms to DFSG (named ZZZ), but when I test it, ads placed by the upstream appear (such as pop up ads). Since ads can affect user experience of ZZZ, but at the same time the upstream get paid by ad

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Sam Hartman : I've certainly heard people describe our use of both ar and tar as an architectural minus especially on embedded platforms just because the dependency set of dpkg needed to be larger. On my embedded systems, I don't have ar installed, only tar. I assume, that dpkg speaks a

Re: Tell me about your salsa experience

2019-04-22 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-04-22 09:55, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > Alioth did not get in my way. Salsa does not get into my way neither. I barely use the web frontend, I do not use the issue tracker at all, nor merge requests. Works fine for me!

Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR)

2019-04-08 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Mo Zhou : Plus, letting users write PKGBUILD doesn't help them learn Debian packaging at all... Then I would try to diverge as little as possible from the classical way how Debian packaging works.

French? (Re: Work-needing packages report for Mar 22, 2019)

2019-03-22 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-03-22 00:26, w...@debian.org wrote: >bootp (#924999), orphaned 2 days ago > Description: serveur pour le protocole bootp avec gestion de DHCP ... >bsd-finger (#925001), orphaned 2 days ago > Description: Programme de recherche de renseignements sur les >utilisateur

Re: Solved: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-21 22:15, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Depending on the kinds of tests you need, there is also the option of > telling ffmpeg to generate some data for you. Saves space :-) I will look into that!

Solved: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi, upstream confirms that the files are mainly non-free. For my purpose, I will just search free replacements. Thanks & Cheers

Re: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-19 23:41, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:06:30AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > Noted, but it is not the size that is the concern, but rather the > > licensing. > > once those (licencing concerns) are resolved, I wonder whether it makes > sense to provide a fate-testdata

Re: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-20 06:19, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:52:49PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > In my case, it's only 3.3 MiB. And it is only in the source package > > anyway. > > So you can just ship it then. After clarifying the license(s).

Re: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-20 00:06, Chris Lamb wrote: > Noted, but it is not the size that is the concern, but rather the > licensing. Sure! If this cannot be clarified, I'll try to either find similar files with a suitable licsense, or even produce them myself. Like with the "(Ma)Lena, the cat" photo :-)

Re: Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-19 22:55, Chris Lamb wrote: > Dumb question: have you tried consulting upstream? Not yet. If this question has been clarified inside Debian before, I'm reluctant pestering upstream again. I know, that some upstreams get shirty about our insistence on such matters. But if not, I'll conta

Use of FATE (FFmpeg Automated Testing Envionment) data?

2019-02-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi, a package I'm working on makes use of eight files from the FATE project for unit testing. The files are multimedia files (image, audio, video, subtitles). By default it downloads files during build, but it's easy to just provide them locally. So far, I could not find any FATE files in Debian.

Re: Directory for .gir (gobject-introspection) files? (Multi-Arch)

2019-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi Simon, many thanks for taking the time to go through this bug report! Very much appreciated! On 2019-02-16 17:02, Simon McVittie wrote: > Multiarch-qualified directories under /usr/share don't seem like they make > much sense: the whole point of the $libdir/$datadir duality is that if > files

Directory for .gir (gobject-introspection) files? (Multi-Arch)

2019-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi, at the moment, .gir files are placed under /usr/share/gir-1.0/. However, such files can contain architecture specific content. What would be the right directory? /usr/share/gir-1.0//? TIA & Cheers PS: This is related to #905715

Bug#922294: ITP: social-examples -- collection of examples implementations of the python-social-auth ecosystem

2019-02-14 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: social-examples Version : n/a Upstream Author : Matías Aguirre * URL : https://github.com/python-social-auth/social-examples * License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python D

Bug#922292: ITP: social-app-webpy -- Web.py component of the python-social-auth ecosystem

2019-02-14 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: social-app-webpy Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Matías Aguirre * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/social-auth-app-django * License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python D

Re: Namespace for system users

2019-02-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-02-09 13:10, Philipp Kern wrote: > How do others deal with this problem? In my company, we use leading underscore for all non-human accounts. Human accounts get lower-case ASCII letters only. Also, we use the same uid/gid for the same human user on all machines (1000 + something unique, e

Bug#921691: ITP: python-pylibsrtp -- Python wrapper around libsrtp

2019-02-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" Package name: python-pylibsrtp Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : Jeremy Lainé URL : https://pypi.org/project/pylibsrtp/ License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Python wrap

Bug#921689: ITP: python-aioice -- library for Interactive Connectivity Establishment

2019-02-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" Package name: python-aioice Version : 0.6.14 Upstream Author : Jeremy Lainé URL : https://pypi.org/project/aioice/ License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : library for I

Bug#921690: ITP: python-av -- Pythonic binding for the FFmpeg libraries

2019-02-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" Package name: python-av Version : 6.1.2 Upstream Author : Mike Boers URL : https://pypi.org/project/av/ License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Pythonic binding for

Re: Bug#877900: How to get 24-hour time on en_US.UTF-8 locale now?

2019-02-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Adam Borowski : The en_US.UTF-8 locale has two purposes: And I always wondered why other locales than en_DK.UTF-8 even exist! • promoting C.UTF-8 in our user interfaces (allowing to select it in d-i, making dpkg-reconfigure locales DTRT, making it the d-i default) -- nice for Unix

Bug#919367: ITP: omemo-backend-signal -- backend for python-omemo offering compatibility with libsignal

2019-01-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: omemo-backend-signal Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Tim Henkes * URL : https://pypi.org/project/omemo-backend-signal/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python D

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2019-01-14 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Michael Stone : Unless the cpu supports rdrand/rdseed, installing rng-tools5 won't really change anything. If it does support those, it probably makes more sense going forward to just enable CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_CPU rather than installing another package. This option is only availab

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-12-26 15:05, gregor herrmann wrote: > (Can we keep this on one mailing list, please? /me restricts this to > -devel) Agreed. > And besides that, I think the more universal answer is > bikesheds/PPAs/you-name-it instead of yet-another-suite. IMHO, this is not the same. Both "volatile/fast

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-25 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi all, I like the idea of having a volatile archive and I agree with almost all what Dominik wrote about the motivation. I would, however, completely separate it from backports. I.e. - separate NEW queue - different suffix - no need to keep a volatile package out of testing Why? - volatil

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ben Hutchings : Many of the rules in Debian policy are there to support a minority of users, but we try to follow them anyway. Hear, hear! I was about to write the same thing. I personally don't care about usrmerge, but if it is useful to a relevant minority, we should not reject it.

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : Granted, I don’t really know what the real world distribution of embedded and desktop/server/laptop devices of arm64 is. But I could imagine that there will be more arm64 devices in the future which are desktops, servers or laptops. There is e.g. this p

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:11:24PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Reminds me of the long /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition in potato times. And we did not even have dh in those days. Sounds good to me! ITYM s#potato#slink, potato, woody, sarge, etch and le

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ansgar Burchardt : This could also be seen as a slower path to merged-/usr: programs such as `sed` would be in both /bin and /usr/bin and hard-coding either would be fine (as with merged-/usr, but not without). Less static files would be on a read-write root file system (if /usr is a sep

Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Sean Whitton : On Wed 21 Nov 2018 at 06:19PM GMT, Holger Levsen wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 05:57:40PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: Before we get there, we should first start autoremoving packages from unstable, if we consider rc-buggy in unstable to be unacceptable. We do have

Re: Requesting input for pjproject/asterisk packaging

2018-11-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-11-19 23:40, Bernhard Schmidt wrote: > Asterisk maintainers have first offerered, then recommended working > around this issue by shipping a private copy I suggest to go that way. I really do not like embedded code copies, but this situation is a perfect excuse for allowing one. Debian fro

Bug#913917: ITP: gajim-openpgp -- OpenPGP for XMPP

2018-11-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: gajim-openpgp Version : 1.1.1 Upstream Author : Philipp Hörist * URL : https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/blob/gajim_1.1/openpgp/manifest.ini * License : GPL3 P

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-06 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-11-06 11:08, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I also bootstrapped the Rust compiler and helped fixing issues on armel, > > mips, mipsel, mips64el. Those are "strange" ports for you? Ok. > > no (except armel..) I'm running Debian armel on, I don't know, 1000 or 2000 devices. (Not myself, customers

Bug#911917: ITP: pyserial-asyncio -- Async I/O extension package for pyserial

2018-10-25 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: pyserial-asyncio Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Chris Liechti (zsquareplusc), Robert Smallshire (rob-smallshire) * URL : https://github.com/pyserial/pyserial-asyncio/ * License

Re: Limiting the power of packages

2018-10-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-10-04 21:10, Simon Richter wrote: > We could bring the same to dpkg by moving things out of maintainer scripts > and into control files. The big items would be > > - alternatives > - diversions > - statoverride > - service start/stop I agree and like to add: - create system users/gro

Re: Limiting the power of packages

2018-10-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-10-03 23:30, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > There > are somewhat low-hanging fruits in there like declarative maintainer > scripts. I am very much in favour of declarative maintainer scripts! AFAIK, Niels Thykier has done a lot of work there, while Ralf Treinen and colleagues are analysing maint

Re: Limiting the power of packages

2018-10-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-10-04 09:06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > What about running Chromium as root? Certainly not recommended, but what > are the user's expectations if they try it anyway? With nowadays web, I would disallow this by default. If root types their sentence ("Yes, I know..."), they can shoot themself

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-09-24 09:38, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ideally, we would never reuse the name of a binary package for some > unrelated piece of software, Nor source package. Why not "elisa-music-player" or whatever?

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Aurélien COUDERC : I’m working on packaging Elisa, a modern and simple music player based on the KDE Frameworks stack. [0][1] I initially named the package elisa, but such a package already existed in the archive in the past. In a similar case, I just renamed the package. There used

Re: Limiting the size of installed changelogs

2018-09-13 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ben Hutchings : - Would it make sense to split the changelog, leaving older entries only in the source package? As long as the full d/ch is in the source package, I'm fine. On one of my embedded machines changelogs are 2/3 of /usr/share/doc. E.g. multiple copies of the same changelog f

Bug#908028: ITP: python-omemo -- Python implementation of the OMEMO Multi-End Message and Object Encryption protocol

2018-09-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: python-omemo Version : v0.7.0-alpha Upstream Author : Tim Henkes * URL : https://github.com/Syndace/python-omemo * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python D

Re: Missing: Mobile Debian-Solution referring to Smartphone Operating Systems (Alternative to Google/Android OS)

2018-08-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Dear Andreas, Quoting Andreas Jakowidis : Because of a long experience in developing Debian-Software since the year 1995 it would be important/necessary for everyone if you could offer Debian also as a mobile solution for smartphone hardware in near future. Debian has a long history on mobile

Re: gpg: signing failed, permission denied

2018-08-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-08-09 19:27, Holger Wansing wrote: > I am unable to clearsign a file with gpg, always getting > permission denied errors. Maybe https://bugs.debian.org/836772 or similar?

Re: Bug#905427: go-sendxmpp -- Go package for sending single messages to an XMPP contact or groupchat

2018-08-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-08-04 14:49, Martin Dosch wrote: > How should I continue? Zip the folder and send to a member of the go-team? The best thing is probably to make yourself a guest account at https://salsa.debian.org/ and host your packaging repository there. Both the Go team (https://salsa.debian.org/go-tea

Re: Status of wvstreams

2018-06-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-06-05 23:15, Simon McVittie wrote: > NetworkManager supports PPPOE (e.g. ADSL), and cellular modems (3G, etc.) > via ModemManager. It doesn't support the analogue dial-up modems that > were popular 10-20 years ago. I don't think the major NM alternatives > (wicd, ConnMan etc.) support those

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Pierre-Elliott Bécue : I've always found otherwise, ie that packaged stuff makes the administrator of a service spare a lot of time. Same here, but it's a matter of taste and requirement diversity. I wonder then, if a lot of people prefer deploy a service from upstream's git repo/cook

Bug#898545: ITP: scrapbookq -- Firefox extension to save and manage Web pages

2018-05-13 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: scrapbookq Version : 0.1.8.0 (2018-01-23) Upstream Author : Joey Liu * URL : https://github.com/tahama/scrapbookq * License : MIT/X11 (see below) Programming Lang:

Re: Firefox 60esr on Stretch ?

2018-05-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-05-04 21:04, Holger Levsen wrote: > because this is what the modern web has become in 2018. go gopher go! Modern web? I don't use Mosaic anymore! :~)

Re: Firefox 60esr on Stretch ?

2018-05-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-05-04 23:22, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > W. Martin Borgert schrieb: > > If a software is not in Debian, I just don't use it. > > Your call. Don't use the extensions, then. Alternatively: Do what is possible for me, to keep the software I like to use in Debian. (

Re: Firefox 60esr on Stretch ?

2018-05-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-05-04 21:12, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Same as all previous extension breakages incurred by ESR transitions; > not at all. Apart from enigmail those are all not updated along > in stable, this doesn't scale at all. If you want your extensions > to be kept compatible, get them from the Mozi

Re: Firefox 60esr on Stretch ?

2018-05-04 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Moritz Mühlenhoff : Julien Cristau schrieb: I expect nothing much different from previous ESR cycles: stretch will move to 60 after 52 goes EOL in September. Exactly. How will we deal with breaking extensions? E.g. I'm using xul-ext-scrapbook a lot. AFAIK, upstream does not provide

Re: Music player & privacy (was: ITP: elisa)

2018-04-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-04-11 07:41, Paul Wise wrote: > Is anyone interested in facilitating a privacy-team BoF at DebConf18? Yes. Would you schedule/organise it? I'm pretty sure, that many people will join, who are not participating in this thread.

Re: Music player & privacy (was: ITP: elisa)

2018-04-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "Santiago R.R." : Instead of a new team… I wonder if the pkg-privacy-team could be interested in addressing this task/idea. I understand Pauls idea that this would be very different things: pkg-privacy-team: packages tools and programs related to privacy, e.g. things around tor etc. p

Re: Music player & privacy (was: ITP: elisa)

2018-04-10 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Paul Wise : I think we need a privacy team. Such a team could verify the privacy status of packages and record that information centrally. I agree. And volunteer. (Messages with the word "volunteer" in the body are never signed.)

Re: Bug#895253: ITP: elisa -- Simple music player with a focus on Plasma desktop integration and privacy

2018-04-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 03:34:42PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: We have apparmor (maybe even by default!) to prevent network accesss of a music application, which is perfect for Adam, you and me, but it must also be easy to allow e.g. fetching of lyrics for those

Re: Bug#895253: ITP: elisa -- Simple music player with a focus on Plasma desktop integration and privacy

2018-04-09 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : the solution to that is to confine each and every application by default and forbid network access. the gnome calculator on every startup fetches currency exchange information because you might use it to calculate that. pretty useful. not. Problem: As Marco pointed out,

Music player & privacy (was: ITP: elisa)

2018-04-08 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-04-08 23:47, Adam Borowski wrote: > why do music players shipped in > Debian default to grabbing lyrics, "LastFM stats", tags, and what not, even > when playing local media? IMHO, they should not do that by default. Opt-in is OK. I'm using quodlibet for listening to music and believe (= ho

Bug#892693: ITP: opcua-widgets -- common widgets for opcua-modeler and opcua-client-gui

2018-03-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: opcua-widgets Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : Olivier Roulet-Dubonnet * URL : https://github.com/FreeOpcUa/opcua-widgets * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python D

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Chris Lamb : In many cases, there is an issue open about the new binary package (In my experience, there is not.) When there is no bug report open at all, well, bad luck. Well, possbibly, but if one is investing time and effort in changing a process it seems a shame not to cover the

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Chris Lamb : Do you have any concrete suggestions for packages that are "Just Visiting" NEW, such as ones adding, say, a python3-foo, a -doc, a SONAME bump, first upload to experimental, etc. etc.? They do not have ITP bugs. In many cases, there is an issue open about the new binary pac

Re: A proposal for improving transparency of the FTP NEW process

2018-03-03 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-03-03 10:22, Chris Lamb wrote: > This is, of course, not very obvious or initiutive and improved > transparency on this would obviously be a beneficial to all parties, > let alone Debian at large. Indeed. Sometimes I see interesting packages in NEW, but don't know why they don't pass. A pu

Re: Bug#891211: ITP: impass -- Simple and secure password management and retrieval system

2018-02-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-02-23 08:41, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On Fri 2018-02-23 14:24:44 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > The link is wrong. The correct one does not ask you for an ¶assword: > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/impass > > thanks for the correction, i wrote the ITP too

Re: Bug#891211: ITP: impass -- Simple and secure password management and retrieval system

2018-02-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Adrien CLERC : * URL : https://salsa.debian.org/impass Is it normal that this URL requires a login? I guess not, but anyway, this is not as open-source as it should be ;) The link is wrong. The correct one does not ask you for an ¶assword: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/im

Bug#891186: ITP: sat-templates -- collection of templates for Salut à Toi

2018-02-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: sat-templates Version : 0.7D Upstream Author : Goffi * URL : https://salut-a-toi.org/ * License : AGPL3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : collection of tem

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-17 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-02-17 13:57, Michael Meskes wrote: > I disagree, it is not maintainable source code, yes, but source code > nonetheless. According to wikipedia source code is: > > In computing, source code is any collection of computer instructions, > possibly with comments, written using[1] a human-readab

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-02-16 20:41, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 08:21:19PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > But it's probably too much work, preparing infrastructure etc. > > Why? Depends how it would be done. Nixos style would probably very difficult for Debian. P

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-02-16 11:51, Sean Whitton wrote: > We cannot feasibly provide security updates when there is more than one > version of the library in the archive. We do not, and probably never > will have, the required manpower. > > This applies to the nixos/guix solutions too -- we cannot expect our > s

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : I very much disagree that Debian is loosing relevance, like many software projects Debian usage is still growing. and other projects grow as well. I agree. you can use their package managers, and thus these features, on Debian today. there's also docker containers and

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Samuel Thibault : What kind of relaxation could we introduce without damaging freeness? And damaging quality. If a program uses some JS libraries without any sources easily available, I cannot really promote this software. Neither in Debian nor outside. This is just bad practice. Or w

Re: How to report bugs with the new git repo?

2018-02-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Pavlo Solntsev : Now, I want to submit patches to packages, e.g. libgdamm. What would be the best process: submit a patch via push request in the Debian repo, or push patches to upstream? If it is (probably) a Debian bug, submit bug (and patch) to the Debian BTS. Ideally, using the "rep

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : Same here. IMO warnings about the last two policy versions should only be shown in pedantic mode. If a package is 3 versions behind, then this should be a normal lintian warning. Maybe warn about new minor number, but not micro number?

Bug#885933: ITP: gajim-appindicatorintegration -- integrates Gajim with the appindicator

2017-12-31 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: gajim-appindicatorintegration Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Denis Borenko , Philipp Hörist * URL : https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/wikis/AppindicatorSupportPlugin

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2017-12-30 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-12-30 13:02, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > There are some cases when using sysvinit is preferred over systemd. > AFAIK there is no way drop some capabilities with systemd geared linux > containers while it is possible with sysvinit. Unfortunately, on some embedded and/or mobile systems, one h

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-29 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-12-29 12:42, Paul Wise wrote: > This is just a symptom of a Debian design flaw that dates back to > before we started using VCSen for packaging. We include information in > the source package that can change independently of the source package > (such as Vcs-*, Homepage, debian/watch, Maint

package mail aliases (was: salsa.debian.org)

2017-12-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-12-26 14:48, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > That's now fixed, and you can use $pack...@packages.debian.org in the > Maintainer field. Does $package need to be equal to the source or binary package name? In case of packaging plugins or additional programs to some kind of "main" program, that are

Bug#884742: ITP: gajim-plugininstaller -- Gajim plugin to install plugins from gajim.org

2017-12-18 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: gajim-plugininstaller Version : 0.20.0 Upstream Author : Gajim authors * URL : https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/wikis/PluginInstallerPlugin * License : GPL3 P

#850803: gajim: No persistent notifications in Plasma 5

2017-12-18 Thread W. Martin Borgert
tags 850803 + help thanks Hi, as I'm not an KDE user and the bug submitter is unreachable: Can somebody check this bug with gajim 1.0.0~alpha2-1? TIA! Please comment directly on the bug...

Re: Which files should go in ‘/usr/share/common-licenses/’? (was: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?)

2017-12-08 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ben Finney : If I understand correctly, the justification of putting a file there must include that it is overwhelmingly more likely to save *storage space* overall (by reducing the space in a corresponding number of ‘/usr/share/doc/…/copyright’ files), especially on machines that have lo

Re: Has Copyright summarizing outlived its usefulness?

2017-12-08 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Markus Koschany : Why don't we add all DFSG-free licenses to /usr/share/common-licenses or /usr/share/free-licenses instead? It would save a lot of developer and maintenance time ... IMHO using links and references is just common sense and reduces unnecessary make work. +1 with "all D

Re: ISO download difficult

2017-12-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-12-05 10:33, Jonas Meurer wrote: > 2. Apart from that, we should improve support and documentation for >loading non-free firmware from an external medium in the free >installer. The combination of the free installer plus nonfree firmware on a USB memory is not so bad. The problem i

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin : On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:10:37PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Currently the stable amd64 netinst is linked from the front page (top > right corner). It is, indeed. Never saw it before... It's a relatively recent improvement. Well, I had

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin : Currently the stable amd64 netinst is linked from the front page (top right corner). It is, indeed. Never saw it before... Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only for VMs. Why?

ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Paul Wise : It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download the ISO without non-free firmware? Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me minutes to find it. I didn't even know, that there were an ISO

Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

2017-11-29 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-11-28 20:22, Russ Allbery wrote: > My personal pet "I don't have time" project I'd love to see is extending > systemd units for as many services in Debian as possible to include > namespace restrictions and seccomp filter rules, Hear, hear!

Re: Bug#882803: ITP: python3-precis-i18n -- internationalized usernames and passwords

2017-11-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ghislain Vaillant : s/python3-precis-i18n/python-precis-i18n Unless this source package is Python 3 specific, please consider renaming the source package to python-precis-i18n, or just precis-i18n. The "python3-" prefix is for binary packages built for the Python 3 interpreter. Unless

Bug#882803: ITP: python3-precis-i18n -- internationalized usernames and passwords

2017-11-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: python3-precis-i18n Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : William W. Fisher * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/precis-i18n * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python D

Bug#881424: RFP: ausweisapp2 -- online authentication using German identity document

2017-11-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: ausweisapp2 Version : 1.12.4 Upstream Author : Governikus GmbH & Co. KG * URL : https://github.com/Governikus/AusweisApp2 * License : EUPL-1.2 Programming Lang: C++

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "W. Martin Borgert" : There is still relevant hardware around which can run "armel", but not "armhf". Forgot to mention some, that one can still buy: On https://www.taskit.de/stamp-overview.html the three boards named "9261", "9G20",

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

2017-11-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-11-07 11:08, Julien Cristau wrote: > Keeping armel on life support for 2 more > years is a significant drain on DSA and our hosters, for questionable > benefit. I agree, that this support comes not for free, but the benefit is not questionable to me: There is still relevant hardware around

Re: Bug#879839: ITP: xhtml2pdf -- A library for converting HTML into PDFs using ReportLab

2017-10-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi Drew, many thanks for your ITP! Note, that xhtml2pdf is known also as "pisa" - nobody so far could explain to me, why there is this upstream name confusion. And pisa is in Debian: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pisa Unfortunately, pisa is not in a good state. It is not in testing, and did ne

Re: New package, name recycling

2017-10-22 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-20 16:59, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > I would package the new dino under this name, because I don't think > there is a conflict. OK, I will better not reuse the name, but go for dino-im (= dino instant messenger), which fits with its domain name dino.im. Thanks for all your input!

New package, name recycling

2017-10-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi, just to be sure, that this is not a problem: There used to be a package "dino" in Debian until jessie. Upstream development dried up years ago and dino became extinct. Recently, a new "dino" appeared on the surface of earth, which is a completely different program. Like git vs git or node

Bug#877947: ITP: gajim-pgp -- Gajim plugin for PGP encryption

2017-10-07 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: gajim-pgp Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Philipp Hörist * URL : https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim-plugins/wikis/pgpplugin * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python D

Bug#873454: ITP: python-test-server -- HTTP server to test HTTP clients

2017-08-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "W. Martin Borgert" * Package name: python-test-server Version : v0.0.27 Upstream Author : Gregory Petukhov * URL : https://github.com/lorien/test_server * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python D

Bug#871830: ITP: pylci -- Python-based Linux Control Interface

2017-08-11 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Python Applications Packaging Team * Package name: pylci Version : 2017-03-10 Upstream Author : Pičugins Arsenijs * URL : https://github.com/CRImier/pyLCI * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description

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