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Package name: refcard
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Programming Lang: XML (docboo
those that do not like LaTeX (I'm
> not one of them :)
I like LaTeX, but I use DocBook XML slides as source and S5-HTML
as output for presentations. I have a simple debianesque CSS, I
can share.
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Hi,
I have a package that is configured and compiled two times, so
that two binary packages are built in one dpkg-buildpackage run:
One with --enable-gnome, the second without. Is this supported
by CDBS somehow? Is there a package, that already does such a
thing using CDBS? Any hint or example deb
Quoting Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Arabic is "ar", IIRC. For groups of languages like cjk or indic it might
> make sense to split the packages further, or, if that's not feasible,
> use e.g. texlive-cjk-lang (but make sure the abbreviation is not ISO-style
> two-character).
ISO-style can
t, e.g. no crash or
a different one :-( So, unfortunately you're right.
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ld on
> our systems.
I couldn't agree more: source uploads are a good idea. It seems
to work for Ubuntu. However, we have discussed this issue before
and there was no consensus and worse, no implementation.
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Quoting "Ivan S. Dubrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The problem is I can't find thorough documentation or some kind of "How To"
> there I can find how to write these extensions. Although they just simply
> pieces of make-files, I find it difficult to start understanding them. For
> example, the diffire
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:10:05PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> I am a little bit confused. Does Via/C3 need strict 386-instructions
> or does it play nicely with the current status, i.e. 486 instruction
> set?
A standard sarge install works perfectly on my brand-new VIA C3.
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Quoting Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If so, what can I do to take the initiative to package it up for Debian
> non-free?
>
> I apologize in advance if this brings up an old flame war...
I don't expect one about this issue. Just don't expect Debian
to join any "Partner Programme", which se
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:12:33PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> What do you think?
I would like to see a d-i port to that architecture!
(not volunteering, sorry)
Did you contact the emdebian people?
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 12:35:36PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> I generally don't see any value in cluttering up -devel with the stuff I
> post on my blog. I hope people who read it will find it interesting, but
> it's not broadly important and I don't think there's any need to annoy large
Quoting Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think that this is part of the essence of blogging. When you write
> a mail to debian-devel you risk being flamed about whatever you are
> saying. When you blog about it, it's your right to say what you think
> and feel like.
People managed to
Quoting Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Use rss2email. It makes blogs almost as useful as maillists.
Sounds OK, but it would be more convenient to just have all
relevant (= technical) information in debian-devel.
> Right, that's a real disadvantage. Everyone knows that debian-devel
Quoting Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thanks for this hint - I just skipped this thread because I regarded
> it relevant for blogs (and thus not for me). But I do not really want
> a new list - I just want technical information neither spread to debian-devel
> and planetdebian nor debian-de
travel reports, personal opinions on all kind of
political issues, or other private stuff?
(I would prefer to get all the technical information on
debian-devel, but of course this is up to the posters.)
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Quoting Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]:
> > What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port,
> > but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's
> > using Debian and certainly not that h
Quoting Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Wrong is endian little that knows everyone but.
Thgir yltcaxe!
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Quoting Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> -EL/-EB/-el/-eb are commonly used gcc switches to select endianness.
OK, thanks. Another mystery solved :-)
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On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote:
> The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux
> developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb)
> port of Debian. We have built 2500+ stable packages so far (see
> http://ftp.deb
Quoting Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi devels,
>
> I'm trying to get my backlight powered off in order to save power. It does
...
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Package name: docbook-css
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : David Holroyd
URL : http://www.badgers-in-foil.co.uk/projects/docbook-css/
License : "free to use/modify/di
Quoting Javier Fern�ndez-Sanguino Pe�a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> presents themselves and suggest meeting for a beer. They don't walk to
> your house, knock on your door and say "Hi! I just got your coordinates
> from db.debian.org, wanna meet and keysign?".
And I wouldn't want that.
I do not underst
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:39:08PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> anyway, i did get your point: you would very much wish for that
> information to stay non-public unless one explicitely makes it public.
Yes, please.
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Quoting Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1. just make it public (after a warning period), anybody who doesn't
>want that can delete his information from the database. my preferred
>option!
I don't like opt-out. Better opt-in:
4. Invent a new field "public location info" and developer
Quoting Peter 'p2' De Schrijver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Most packages are not tested automatically at all.
Unfortunately not.
> Most cross compiled software also runs 24/7. I have yet to see problems
> produced by cross compiling the code.
...
> I don't think the risk is real considering the amoun
Quoting Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Several translation teams (including mine) still use Latin-1 as their
> default...but this is not a reason to still use Latin-1 as an overall
> default...:-)
Btw. I looked into the d-i manuals in SVN and some Western
European languages, e.g. German,
Hello Tomas,
this question should better go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Tomas Davidek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am trying to set up a tool for easy update of several computers in
> our institute. For example, I would like to create a package that
> updates several config files, e.g. /etc/apt/so
Quoting Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> For that you should enable the svn keyword "Id" (using 'svn propset
> svn:keywords Id') and add a comment in your English files containing
> "$Id:".
I will do that, thanks for the hint!
(However, my original plea for using UTF-8 in WebSVN remains.)
Cheers,
Quoting Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> WebSVN does not know about the contents of files in the repository period.
OK.
> As it is just a frontend to svn, you cannot expect it to know about every
> weird file format and encoding around.
OK.
> IMO, the main purpose of websvn is to be able to vie
svn.debian.org? TIA!
[1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/ddp/refcard/trunk/entries-ru.dbk?op=file
(If WebSVN does not know about encodings, UTF-8 might be a more
sensible default than ISO-8859-1 nowadays.)
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d idea.)
Same for me, so I like the idea. Any port should have to have
essential and standard, optional is - optional.
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Quoting Olaf van der Spek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Indeed. Why would those checks be done client-side instead of
> server-side anyway?
To prevent overload from the buildds. But maybe Martin Pitt is
right, and we should just do it like Ubuntu (source-only uploads)
and invent measures, if the need re
Quoting Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There is the possibility that developer builds get extra features
> enabled due to other installed libraries etc. This could be checked for
> by analysing the packages files for different architectures or similar.
This is a really nice idea: A DD with
Quoting "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Because the "user" is (99% chance) an admin.
We should use debtags for this kind of information, IMHO.
> Because the "user" may not want extraneous or extra Perl modules
> installed on his system. If you are building a production box, you may
>
Quoting Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I used to think that too. I took a wander through queue/reject on merkel.
> I don't think that any more. I'm curious as to how Ubuntu is going to
> sustain source-only uploads, honestly.
Mandatory, signed build and test logs? I've no idea...
Cheers
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, W. Borgert wrote:
> > I don't really get this sentence, could you please re-word?
>
> The current set of DDs will do unverified source uploads immediately if
> given half a chance. Unverif
Quoting Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I dislike this idea: it is way overengineered. For starters I don't
> understand why you would want to run both lintian and linda, since those
I really don't care whether one has to run either lintian or linda
or both. That's an implementation detail
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> At doing stupid things, you mean :-( Our demographics do not allow
> source-only uploads unfortunately.
I don't really get this sentence, could you please re-word?
(Sorry, I'm not a native speaker of English)
> Which doesn't mean we can
Quoting Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> According to stories I've heard from people from Ubuntu (that does it
> this way), it quite clearly isn't, because of the pretty high number of
> people who upload packages without even testing the build themselves.
Of course, DDs will do better :-)
Quoting Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> code that's not portable, then I don't see any point at all in treating
> these as release architectures to begin with, because at that point
> they're *not* shipping the same OS that the other architectures are.
Agreed, however, I would see "optional"
Quoting Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> All packages should be built by official debian buildds anyway, not on
> developper machines with random cruft and unsecure packages installed, or
> even
> possibly experimental or home-modified stuff.
That would be very good, indeed. I am very much in f
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 07:28:55PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Currently, sponsored packages are only signed, not built, by official
> Debian Developers.
Be sure you pack your bags yourself.
Keep your bags under your control at all times.
Never carry a package with unknown contents for any re
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 12:05:51AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach W. Borgert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.2049 +0200]:
> > > How about acid-base?
> >
> > This sounds less confusing than base-{,security-}engine. For
> > the latter I would assume
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:59:49PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.08.19.1747 +0200]:
> > I suggest base-security-engine, even though it's quite verbose and
> > the latter two words redundant after the acronym. `base-engine' is
> > better than just
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 02:38:01PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> Do you realy think you can enforce teamwork? I don't think so. Either
> some people will work together as a team or individuals will do it their
One cannot enforce teamwork. Dogma #10 suggests team meetings
in sauna as encoura
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:42:27PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Yes - but how should Lintian detect it? Of course one could look for
> lines that start with whitespace plus "./configure ", but how reliable
> is that?
Attached test found some culprits: aptitude autofs dbus-1
dbus-glib-1 deborph
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:53:37AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Go ahead and file bugs. With patches. And perhaps an explanation
> of why a README in the .deb is not required and, if it exists, is not
> required to equal upstream's.
>
> When a few dozen of your patches have made it to sid, conde
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 10:55:20AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Idea 1:
> lintian: W: /usr/share/doc/README contains installation instructions
I like that one.
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abbreviation based verbs already, so
I should not invent new ones: HA = high availability.
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 02:18:39AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
...a lot of wise things...
I have to agree. So how to proceed? File minor bugs against
README files, that contain predominantly useless information?
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 10:10:42PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > their files. Or do you suggest to tag all files in Debian with
> > such an information? :-)
>
> Open a man page.
Because it has a NAME section? OK,
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 08:45:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 14, "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > as a conclusion of many discussions at DebConf5, I propose to
> > maintain all packages by teams. A fine way to do this, is by
> &qu
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 08:17:53PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 12:02:36PM +0000, W. Borgert wrote:
> > - "Readme file for ."
> >
> > Really?
>
> Well, you want to know which package a README belongs to when you get a README
>
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 07:51:47PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> (Maybe ITPs should include the proposed section (games in this case)
> to resolve confusions like these.)
Or better, as sections become obsolete, the proposed debtags.
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therwise, I would have criticised Branden for proposing hacking
*roff instead of using DocBook/XML refentries :-)
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g description,
> i have no clue whatsoever what the program is for. Hopefuly in the final
> package it will be reworded...
A "bridge" works on OSI layer 2 (data link layer), unlike a
router. So it must be a dll network traffic "generator", you
have to manually ("h
Hi,
as a conclusion of many discussions at DebConf5, I propose to
maintain all packages by teams. A fine way to do this, is by
having a pkg- project at alioth.debian.org. It is useful to
invite non-DDs, esp. upstream developers and people from Debian
derivatives to participate in such teams.
As
of relevant information into the
README.Debian, if appropriate.
3. Don't invent a README file artificially, if you don't have
to say anything.
4. File minor bugs about such README files.
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:26:00PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> However, I am wondering if it is a bug that the pages are not even valid
> HTML 4.01. Is this a bug? Should I file a bug agains the b.d.o psuedo
Shouldn't it be XHTML nowadays?
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Quoting Timo Aaltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Is there will to change the current policy regarding runlevels in
> Debian? I'd propose to use the recommendation made by LSB:
IIRC, there were discussions about that issue. I don't remember
the outcome and would like to see Debian more LSBish here.
Quoting Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Conflicting is Not An Option. So policy says, for good reasons.
OK, bad idea.
> There is precedence to consider. Sarge already contains a git package
> that provides /usr/bin/git. Users who update from sarge to etch would
> not be served well if the
Quoting Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've pushed the "rename it upstream" idea on the upstream maintainers
> twice now and it gets shut down by both Linus (the original author)
> and Junio (the current maintainer). [2]
There is still the option to rename it for Debian only,
without c
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> Look down the thread -- your question was answered:
>
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:03:03 +0200
> From: Arjan Oosting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It is, the orig.tar.gz is created if you do a
> FORCEEXPORT=yes svn-buildpackage
Works
nks.
One more question, I could not answer myself from reading the
man page:
If I have the complete upstream source in SVN, but not the
.tar.gz, how do I create the .orig.tar.gz, when I have a new
upstream version?
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On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:07:10PM +, Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
> But how do you push the users to remove the package from their
> systems? In reality they will keep the broken version installed and
> so you have (1) again :-(
Empty package with a higher version number?
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Remember the KDE/Qt licensing discussion...
(3) is second best. At least typical server installations are
not affected (we use w3m, don't we?) and desktop users are used
to frustration anyway. (1) is not an option.
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Hi,
what is the right/best way to build packages from SVN using
pbuilder? I am new to both, please be patient.
Suppose, I have a package with complete upstream sources (no
tarballs) under svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-greetings/hello/
with the subdirectories branches/, tags/, and trunk/.
- How d
Hi,
what do you think about the usefulness of technical (and other
strange) details in package description? I think, those are
annoying and should be avoided, but maybe I can learn, why they
are useful. Examples:
"Foo is a Perl-based program that..."
"libBar is written in C..."
"libBang is wr
Quoting David Pashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Do we really need this in the archive? Can we not add this to another
> package under games? It is rather small and doesn't serve a significant
> amount of functionality.
Yes. Please suggest a package.
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Package name: evilfinder
Version : 666(?)
Upstream Author : Michal Zalewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/evilfinder/ef.shtml
License : under cl
Package: vera
Version: 1.12-1
Please provide a dbk version of vera, as this can be used
by document authors (automatic inclusion of used glossary
entries is supported by docbook-xsl!). [Note: Maybe it's
easier to use dbk as source format and generate info than
the other way around.]
Btw.: You sh
Webpage: http://www.i-scream.org/libstatgrab/
not www.example.org :-)
It would be great, if you package pystatgrab
(http://www.i-scream.org/pystatgrab/) as well.
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Hi,
a colleague observed crashes in some heavily multi-threaded Python
applications. He is running Debian sarge with stock kernel
2.6.8-2-686. Using LD_ASSUME_KERNEL "fixes" the crash, so it seems
to be an NPTL issue. (Maybe stupid) questions:
- Is it relevant, whether Python is compiled on a
Quoting Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm using it with fontconfig, just have a look at the rules file.
Thanks to Aaron and Josselin! My fault was to set
--dbg-package=libfoo-dbg instead of --dbg-package=libfoo :-)
Both fltk1.1 and fontconfig are fine examples.
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Hi,
are there any CDBS based packages using dh_strip with the
--dbg-package option? I tried, but no /usr/lib/debug/
directory is created. I'm using debhelper 4.2.30 with
cdbs 0.4.26-1.1. Many thanks in advance!
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Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> File a serious bug against package Y. initscripts have to exit with a
> successfull status if the daemon is already running.
OK. As this package Y is not (yet) part of Debian, I just changed
it: I added --oknodo to start-stop-daemon and
Hi,
for some kind of CDD I have created a package "X" that changes
another packages "Y" config file (using cfengine) and restarts
the respective daemon. That works well, if I upgrade package
X only or Y only.
Problem: If I upgrade both package X and Y at the same time
the daemon of package Y wil
Hi,
I'm bitten by a problem, that is already known to some people, but
for which I found no solution. On a Dell server, the 2.6.7 kernel
(kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686-smp) hangs during boot at the real time
clock. It seems, this problem is only known to Debian users :-(
Is there a solution or a wor
Hi,
a few days ago, I uploaded an emacs mode package (all) source only
w/o problems to ftp-master. Today, a source only upload was rejected.
Why? I think, we should get rid of binary uploads...
Cheers!
file
placement, 2 years and 58 days old) and #114718 (empty dirs
in omniorb-doc, 82 days old) are gone.
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--- examples.orig/Makefile.am Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970
+++ examples/Makefile.amFri Dec
tester). So, it's all related to protocol testing. I'll
release this under GPL, of course.
Section: editors
Priority: optional
Package: ttcn-el
Architecture: all
Depends: emacsen
Description: GNU Emacs modes for TTCN-3/protocol testing languages.
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- good Debian infrastructure;
- it would be easy to have one distribution, that would
work for a lot of different computers, like routers,
telephones, VCRs, ATMs, washing machines, PDAs...
Well, is there sth. like this already or are people working
on this?
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t
deb, if everything is O.K. more packages will follow...
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