Re: Validating tarballs against git repositories

2024-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rest in their packaging recipe, you'll also automatically discover if a commit disappeared from upstream repo without needing a lot of extra tooling/integration (although not if it has moved between branches). However, you need a backup place to retrieve the commit from in case it disappear or

Re: call for participation - Debian contributors survey, 1st ed.

2016-11-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s, after all). The "threat model" is rather: "untrusted readers of published survey *results*", which we will aggregate to avoid deanonymization. And of course all questions are optional, so if people fill itchy about specific ones, just leave them out. I'm available for

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
w to do so. Thanks for bringing up this topic, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of ta

Re: [Request] Is there any way to get the full source codes of Debian?

2016-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
eers. [*]: long story, they are in the process of migrating to a new mechanism that will allow to upload datasets this big autonomously, whereas the current setup requires manual intervention to do so -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Sc

Re: [Request] Is there any way to get the full source codes of Debian?

2016-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
eers. [*]: long story, they are in the process of migrating to a new mechanism that will allow to upload datasets this big autonomously, whereas the current setup requires manual intervention to do so -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Sc

Re: GPL debate on kernel mailing list

2016-09-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 05:25:49PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 02:29:56AM +0200, Zlatan Todorić wrote: ... and we're discussing all this on debian-devel because ... ? -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Scie

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
* debian/copyright files. No matter that, Debian can decide: that is not worth maintaining that information / that is worth only if better tooling is available / that is worth only if someone else shows up to do the job / etc. Like it or not, downstreams will cope. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
er for correctness; or at least usefulness. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
over time here (cme and lintian checks comes to mind), but there's still a long way to go. FOSSology integration in Debian seems the natural next step here. I believe Kate talked about that too in her DebConf16 talk. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . .

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 12:56:58PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > ouch! please do file this as a distinct bug report, it's something i > haven't run into myself and i'd like to track it down. Done, that's #833596. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . .

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
m experimental. But it might be useful for you to know about this. Let me know how I can debug it further and/or if you'd like to move this discussion into a dedicated bug report (and when). Cheers. [*] actually, I manually removed the symlinks from .config/systemd/user/default.target.

Re: Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tl --user status). Thanks a lot for your work on GPG dkg, I'm really thrilled to see gpg2 becoming the default! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Le

Re: Verifying dep-5

2016-05-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
restricting to a specific build system and/or a programming language) and as such by no mean generic enough to scale to the size and diversity we have in Debian. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack .

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
mality wins here (hence my "Yay" to your proposal in separate mail). YMMV. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . .

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
atch, policy, etc.) > - document that the list of options can be extended in the future > (policy) > > And we leave the discussion of repository layout (native, debian/ only, > etc.) for another time. > > Yay/nay? Yay. My 0.02 EUR, -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
BRANCH] [layout=LAYOUT] I really worry that (1) might be something too simplistic that we regret in the future. So (2) might be more wise. (3) is probably overkill at this point, because I don't think we're ready for the layout bikeshed. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d start offering Debian installs for it too, as we > do for other non-free hardware/virtualisation/cloud platforms. I think we should. It will help Windows users use less proprietary software in their daily lives, and my very well work as a "gateway drug" to 100% Free Software in the l

Re: Archive changes

2016-03-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
All, On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 08:32:17AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > But it might be a good idea to track all upcoming breakages using the > BTS. Fell free to tag and/or mark as blocking the above bug report as > needed. And to report more similar bugs :) I've now reported #

Re: Archive changes

2016-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
dea to track all upcoming breakages using the BTS. Fell free to tag and/or mark as blocking the above bug report as needed. And to report more similar bugs :) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . .

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ct. And that's why I was actually hoping that something like this could actually be a *generalization* of how Packages/Sources files are being generated, rather than a new special case to be added---which would certainly be a sign of bad design for this proposal. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli .

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
update their sources.list anyhow for an unrelated change is a very solid argument for imposing another one onto them. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Projec

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
subset of non-free, rather then introducing a new archive area, in the discussions of years ago, but maybe it's just me. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Pr

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
going to be the case. Which would be problematic and also a little bit disturbing. Is really no technical way to easily allow to have packages in multiple (sub-)parts of the archive? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . .

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
te that, out of the box, having the information in d/copyright won't help with APT pinning either. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . .

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
new debtags. (Procedure that I cannot find right now, but IIRC it includes coming up with a list of tag names + a list of at least N packages, with N relatively low, that are already in the archive and that would carry each tag.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . .

Bug#807054: ITP: flask-testing -- unit testing utilities for the Flask micro web framework

2015-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: flask-testing Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : Dan Jacob * URL : http://pythonhosted.org/Flask-Testing/ * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : unit

Bug#807053: ITP: flask-api -- browsable web APIs for the Flask micro web framework

2015-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: flask-api Version : 0.6.4 Upstream Author : Tom Christie * URL : http://www.flaskapi.org/ * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : browsable web APIs for

Re: debian.org RTC: announcing XMPP, SIP presence and more

2015-11-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
P identity and I've been looking into migrating away since quite a while. But I've hundreds of contact there and I don't really know how to minimize their (and mine) pain during a migration. If anyone have tips, I'll be very glad to hear about them. Cheers. -- Stefan

Re: git, debian/ tags, dgit - namespace proposal [and 1 more messages]

2015-11-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ference implementation of it. But I'd agree that doing so might in the long term end up being confusing.) Hope [but not so sure that] this helps, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o .

Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

2015-09-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y anyone in the uploading keyrings, whenever mailfilter is updated in sid it will also be put into theoneandonly bikeshed automatically. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o

Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

2015-09-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 04:39:43PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > It wasn't supposed to be a joke. Bikeshed is an appropriate name, in > the unix tradition of mildly amusing/punny names. Not to mention that this bikeshed thread about the Bikeshed name is going to be both epic and very meta.

Re: Bug#797359: ITP: universal-ctags -- Generates an index (or tag) file of names found in source files

2015-08-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ant-ctags? This is by no means an objection to packaging this, but as a heavy user of exuberant-ctags for Debsources, I'm curious about how the two compares, specifically in terms of performances and language support. Thanks! -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . .

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

2015-08-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e-freedom/ > http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2009/09/19/personal-software-freedom/ Thanks for these references, very useful! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debia

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

2015-08-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nable discussion points, that we can work on to improve the experience of Debian users, without having to re-decide again whether non-free firmware should be in main or not. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . htt

Re: Q: any reason for debian-policy non-i18n-ed?

2015-05-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 01:13:10PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Why debian-policy has not been gettexted? > Just a curious :) I suggest to ask the debian-policy maintainers, instead of debian-devel :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
//www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=874 . I found that slide deck to be a very nice and compact primer about systemd administration, if you come from a sysvinit background -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.

Re: patch-tracker down?

2015-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
But GSoC outcomes are hardly unpredictable, so I'm not ready to commit to the availability of something by the end of the summer. If it is easy to resurrect patch-tracker.d.o as is, and you're willing to work on it, by all means go for it. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . .

Re: patch-tracker down?

2015-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
old patch-tracker.d.o code base, please come and talk to me. Having competition in the area wouldn't be necessarily bad either. In particular, it might motivate in implementing a generic patch parser in Python (supporting the various kind of packages), to be included in python-debian. Cheers

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
arned that 3rd party hosting is not a strategically smart move, with all the forges closing down these days. If anything, we should run our own GitLab (or Kallithea, FWIW). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://u

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘request-pull’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
se the alioth Git repo as the main one (e.g., in Vcs-* fields), and mirror it to GitHub for people who want to contribute via GitHub's pull requests. > Also accept contributions via email or git request-pull. AOL. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ve /usr/bin/apt a try: it abstracts over apt-get / apt-cache, offering a single CLI entry point to (some of) the functionalities of both. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Fo

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he opt-out mechanism you and Don discussed in another part of the thread. But I'm convinced that we should optimize for the other use case.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . .

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
hese days). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of

Re: teams in Re: New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
-in features such as team claiming? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club i

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
dvertised user survey, with specific questions about the packages you are interested in. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . .

Re: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
r for a very long time and then shows up just for transitioning to a new key, I'd have no way to figure out that something fishy with her key might be going on. In practice, this might become a fairly strict requirement, and I've keysigned on the basis of a transition statement only twice

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he one that works https-only) people can simply use symlinks. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first r

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
mplementing this would require. In particular, I haven't put much thought in an easy way to implement the directory-level opt-out. - I *personally* don't mind having https only, quite the contrary! But I got hooked by the discussions and couldn't resist proposing an API :)

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-07-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rvive. This isn't supposed to be a big deal, just a small > convenience. Thanks a lot, Wookey! -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on i

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he project to continue working. If every decision we make > needs to be re-discussed at the whim of any one disgruntled individual > for years to come, nobody's going to have fun. +1 Amen AOL Bravo (etc.) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître

Re: QA page showing "git error"

2014-06-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
footer notes is highly recommended for all Debian services with a Web interface (hint hint nudge nudge). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Lead

Re: Release Notes (and any other documentation) (was: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ems, get back to us, and then we realize pretty quickly that the root cause of their problems is precisely that they haven't read the release notes. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n to you when he is stuck choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like "GNOME", "Xfce", and "KDE"? We are software integrators, making default choices is what we do. We can't pass the bucket down to our users. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . .

Re: Debian source packages file types and SLOC

2014-02-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e service to retrieve it. Rather contact me in private and I could provide a dump of the relevant database tables. HTH, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Proj

Re: autopkgtest + chroot howto ? - Was: Re: Is it possible to run autopkgtest without a virtual machine ?

2014-01-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
on (sorry), but you might also be interested in sadt --- "simple DEP-8 test runner" --- by Jakub Wilk, which has recently joined the devscripts happy bunch. Just install devscripts (>= 2.14.1, currently in unstable only) and have a look at man 1 sadt. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ong; arguably doing so will contribute to be even worse email citizens. If we do have such a replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug report. Thanks for having maintained vacation over all these years! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc .

Re: [DEP 8] About "XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest": time to remove "XS-" ?

2014-01-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
BF, I didn't mean to propose another one. I was merely pointing to the old one to observe its evolution over time. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Lea

Re: [DEP 8] About "XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest": time to remove "XS-" ?

2014-01-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olved issues were initially marked wontfix, but have then been corrected. Most of the remaining bugs seem to be affecting zope-related packages and other zope packages have been fixed already. Cheers. [1]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=missing-testsuite-header;users=autopkg

Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

2013-10-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ill be the criteria for assessing whether the experiment has been successful (and hence worth keeping for Jessie) or a failure (and hence reverting it)? Hint: I don't think that the amount of opinionated posts anti-GNOME or anti-Xfce posted on debian-devel is a good success metric :-) Ch

Re: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system

2013-10-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t the init system (both "which are the supported ones?" and "which is the default one?") clearly belong to the tech-ctte at this point. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . .

Re: Please assume good faith (was Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME)

2013-10-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e to GNome?) > are silence by > Code of Conduct > > Now, let me know - is this the new way of silencing critical voices? No. But it is a gigantic leap forward in the culture of our community. Thanks Adam! -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . .

Re: Bug#724980: ITP: trove -- Database as a Service for OpenStack

2013-09-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
his point wasn't to dispute the usefulness of this software, but rather to encourage the packager to add a more comprehensive description of it to the Debian package :-) Adding some of your points about API availability would be a very good start. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilo

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n libraries; I'm not sure if that's the case also for Haskell or not. Now, does that mean that you need to add OCaml/Haskell software to the list of exceptions? I'm not sure, it really depends on the intended Built-Using use cases. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . .

Re: asking for advice: all dependencies incl. version numbers

2013-09-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n the field, that might be valuable to you. As we're quickly getting off-topic for debian-devel, feel free to contact me (and likely the others who have participated in this thread, even though I cannot speak for them) off-list. All the best for your studies, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Bits from the Release

2013-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ood work! Cheers. [1]: preliminary, not necessarily up to date, results are available at http://firewoes.debian.net/ for those who are interested [2]: http://debile.debian.net/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . .

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:18:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's > > support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile modu

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
frequent ABI changes, well, "so be it" would be my take. YMMV of course. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . .

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-07-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e the good moment to rather ask them to migrate to some libdpkg* API instead. Thanks in advance for your advice, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . .

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the shift in the most common deployment pattern for software: handing software copies in the past, using remote services over the net nowadays. (Anyway, here we're getting quite off-topic...) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences .

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
*modified* version of INN. But it is exactly the > same kind of difficulties that people distributing modified copylefted > software will have to face to uphold GPL (or equivalent) terms. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
th the copyleft approach (and of course not all of us are) AGPL shouldn't be particularly shocking. In that sense, AGPL is just a new release of GPL that closes a long outstanding bug titled "provide a license port for the Software-as-a-Service era". Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli .

Re: Berkeley DB 6.0 license change to AGPLv3

2013-07-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ement, worrying about the fact that simply providing URLs to tarballs wouldn't be considered enough? Or is it something else? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-07-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
de2013/StudentApplications/LeoCavaille Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the firs

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
so you will likely find even *more* people willing to help with this experiment if you do so. But doing so is also in the interest of better reproducibility and peer review of scientific experiments, as you certainly know. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . .

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

2013-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e extensions by default or not (which is a change I would welcome) is a separate discussion. The existence of those 3rd party repositories, no matter the free-ness of the extensions, clearly is impacted by our security policy decisions. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

2013-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nk this is an excellent idea and is absolutely something we > should do. backports.debian.org helps considerably in easing the pain > of our long release cycle but is underadvertised. This would make > using it much simpler and more straightforward for our users. FWIW, I concur. -- Stefan

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

2013-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ne we should tackle, IMHO, but that's for a separate discussion. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: default MTA

2013-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
an leadership on the mail server market: let's switch our default to Postfix and see if the figures change :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader

Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
g made were of activities that are permitted by the terms of the agreement. The discussion was about whether you should trust that a company won't do in the future activities that you consider "bad" (but which *are* permitted by the agreements), based on their past record

Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t when they are much lower when those organizations have clear governance structures and contestable (it is left to the reader to judge whether FSF fits this definition). Also, the mere fact that you remove profit from the equation reduces quite a bit the overall pressure in changing objectives and

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
m not volunteering to write an essay on this topic myself :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the f

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
EP, or a wiki page, or a bug report, whatever is appropriate), containing a summary of the arguments in favors and against and corresponding counterarguments. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t the buildds do, except they do that for build dependencies, while you likely want to do that for binary package dependencies). Doing so might be simpler than having to support other britney runs/installations. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maît

Re: bits from the DPL: March-April 2013

2013-04-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
an.org/pipermail/fsf-collab-discuss/2013-March/000383.html FWIW it's fixed in the version of the report that is going to show up on Planet. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . .

Re: Legal possibility of more open package reviews.

2013-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
1] unfortunately, DMCA is not the only "bad" draconian law that exists around the world, many other countries have similar laws -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian

Re: Availability of Debian official cloud images from debian.org

2013-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
s are all to be figured out before we will be able to move forward. If you can look into it, it would be great. Thanks! PS setting M-F-T to -cloud -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o De

Re: git dangerous operations on alioth

2013-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
would be *much* appreciated. ... and thanks for raising the topic, Daniel! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-02-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
p with a larger one once the import is complete. > > And finally to answer Zack's mail: I added the missing service > information in git, but I need to wait with deploying until the import > run is complete. Great stuff Helmut, thanks! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . .

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-02-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ind other contributors ;-) (And if you find other services lacking such information, bug them!) TIA! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack

Re: No native packages?

2013-02-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
for the misunderstanding, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is

Re: No native packages?

2013-02-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
other developers can help using NMUs. That way they help both the maintainers in question, relieving some of their duties if they are gone only temporarily, and the project as a whole that avoids being technically stalled for a while. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon

Re: Bug#700630: ITP: gitorious -- Git based tool for collaborating on distributed open source projects

2013-02-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
? I understand it's a "concurrent" of gitorious :-), but AFAICT from the RFP, it was expected to land under the hood of pkg-ruby-extras as well. Thanks for your work, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . .

Re: bits from the DPL: January 2013

2013-02-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he very first section on that page, named "Trademarks" give a natural language description of the trademarks we currently own, with pointers to the relevant offices who have registered them. It's possibly not very well structured, but it has been considered good enough by Debian leg

[RFH] answering trademark@d.o inquiries

2013-02-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
-- "minimal" because all non-obvious cases should better be routed to SPI legal support. Regarding documentation on www.d.o/intro/organization of who is behind trademark@d.o: sure, that's a good idea. Patches/commits welcome :-) Thanks in advance, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-01-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
such example. > Do all Haskell packages add Built-Using headers? The OCaml toolchain in Debian doesn't either, #699330 has now been filed to address that. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsil

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
upstreams (including ourselves) to make it as easy as possible for downstreams to first apply patches, according to their own schedule and needs, and then forward them upstream. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http:

Bug#698872: Debian logo svg file is not loadable in Inkscape

2013-01-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
debian-...@lists.debian.org might want to give it a > test and replace the old file with this one? Anyhow I now have my > Debian logo for my slides! > > Thanks all for helping with this issue. > > Cheers, > Filippo > > -- > Filippo Rusconi, PhD - public crypto key C78F68

Re: Debian logo svg file is not loadable in Inkscape

2013-01-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
o some minor syntactic issues (I speculate: due to the age of the .svg in question) it doesn't work properly with current version of popular FOSS SVG editors. Let's "just" find SVG experts in our community and ask them to fix the source code. Posting a call for help about this on

Re: [cut-team] Time to merge back ubuntu improvements!

2013-01-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olling derivatives (e.g. Mint), or as a distribution for power users that still want some sort of "protection" between them and the latest uploads to unstable & experimental. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférence

Re: debian/* license of non-free packages

2013-01-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ut the basics are what we can all imagine: inspecting VCS histories, patch submission to public mailing lists and bug trackers, etc. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o

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