Re: Setting up a custom wanna-build instance

2025-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz, le ven. 22 août 2025 10:44:05 +0200, a ecrit: > I'm looking into setting up my own local wanna-build instance as I want to > rebuild the m68k port with 32-bit alignment [1]. > > Has anyone done this before? I had done this 20 years ago, so details probably have

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, To people who may wonder why it's so obvious that AI was at the very least used to "improve" the writing, it already merely comes from the vocabulary being used: Lucy, le jeu. 24 juil. 2025 09:16:12 +0200, a ecrit: > How delightfully ironic > Your theatrical performance > you've weaponiz

Re: a tool to rebuild a bunch of packages ?

2025-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues, le jeu. 24 juil. 2025 09:43:19 +0200, a ecrit: > Quoting Jochen Sprickerhof (2025-07-24 09:11:41) > > * picca [2025-07-24 07:39]: > > >I prepared a directory with a bunch of sources packages. > > > > > >Now I need to build them in the right order with sbuild. > >

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lucy, le jeu. 24 juil. 2025 09:16:12 +0200, a ecrit: > @Samuel: Ah yes, "ChatGPT-written polemic." Your AI is not even able to grasp who said what. Discussion can only stop here. Samuel

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lucy, you are piling rhetoric over rhetoric, that won't make a fruitful discussion. Lucy, le mer. 23 juil. 2025 12:01:59 +0200, a ecrit: > Debian has never just been “a Linux distro.” It has always stood for > deliberation, control, and the ability to resist upstream when needed. That's n

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lucy, le mer. 23 juil. 2025 11:01:36 +0200, a ecrit: > 2. The double-click change is functionally regressive > > Single-click has been the KDE default for over a decade I have always found this behavior surprising because on desktop computers, I've only seen it in KDE. And thus I find it

Re: Bits from the DPL

2025-06-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
c.bu...@posteo.jp, le mar. 03 juin 2025 07:19:33 +, a ecrit: > And by the way: "AI" is a marketing and sci-fi term. AI is also a very well-established scientific term that does encompass LLMs. Samuel

Re: GCC-15 mass bug filing.

2025-02-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Antonio Terceiro, le mar. 18 févr. 2025 10:00:18 -0300, a ecrit: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 09:06:53AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Give the scale if build failure (hundreds of failures for the Debian Med > > packaging team for instance), > I don't think that "OMG my packages have bugs and I ne

Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?

2025-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Tokarev, le ven. 24 janv. 2025 09:16:50 +0300, a ecrit: > 3. "latest" is a misnomer (unlike "main" or "master"). For example, I often > use > "experimental" branch which is more recent than "master", yet the main > development is happening in "master". Yes, that's why I wouldn't use

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Julien Plissonneau Duquène, le mar. 21 janv. 2025 11:24:31 +0100, a ecrit: > Le 2025-01-20 21:21, Sam Hartman a écrit : > > One of the issues is HOST_NAME_MAX in modules/pam_xauth/pam_xauth.c. > > It doesn't make much sense to allow arbitrarily long host names. I'm more > reserved for path names a

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 17:12:05 -0700, a ecrit: > The pam 1.5.3 hurd compatibility patch simply defines PATH_MAX to 4096. > I believe that previous krb5 patches have done something similar. > I think this approach is quite common to how people approach HURD > compatibility. Yes, and t

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 15:48:00 -0700, a ecrit: > My restatement is that it's possible to create paths where the full path > name is longer than PATH_MAX. > > I guess a better way to look at this would be that paths beyond PATH_MAX > may break. And unfortunately, code that just uses P

Re: Is HURD's lack of HOST_NAME_MAX and PATH_MAX a good architectural approach

2025-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le lun. 20 janv. 2025 13:21:32 -0700, a ecrit: > I will admit I was kind of disappointed that rather than working to make > my package handle arbitrary hostnames, the patch simply introduced an > arbitrary constant for HURD. It should not have, indeed. > * Having different li

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 13:07:36 +0100, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 13:00 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:01:24 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > What I comple

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Ahlgren, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 13:47:24 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 12:01 +0100, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > > With empty-/etc, you would (ideally) only have explicit local > > configuration in /etc which makes it much, much easier to see what the > > local admin changed to diagnose problem

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:01:24 +0100, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > What I completely fail to understand is why people would want to not > > see any file in /etc. What harm does it *actually* cause? > > It makes it hard to

Re: norust profile, and setting it by default on alpha, hppa, m68k, sh4, x32 port buildds

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Julian Andres Klode, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 12:21:37 +0100, a ecrit: > # setting the profile > > I then propose we inject the > > DEB_BUILD_PROFILES=norust > > in the buildds for the ports architectures that do not have > a rustc. wanna-build would also need to be told to drop build-

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Josh Triplett, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 02:05:30 -0800, a ecrit: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 09:55:17AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Josh Triplett, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 19:05:56 -0800, a ecrit: > > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Lewis, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 09:42:11 +, a ecrit: > but perhaps what is missing is a way to see what changed on upgrade > (you'd want to save the clean version from the _previous_ version of a > package to be able to do that after the upgrade)? You mean ucf? Samuel

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Henrik Ahlgren, le ven. 20 déc. 2024 11:32:37 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 09:55 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > But isn't it what we already have? If I don't modify the example in /etc > > and only add files to .d/, I'm getting upgrades without ques

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Josh Triplett, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 19:05:56 -0800, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 16:21:03 +0100, a ecrit: > > > And it is actively harmful as if one edits the example configuration to > > > have a useful configuration as dpkg will

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ansgar 🙀, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 16:21:03 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 11:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Also, /etc would thus be full of empty /etc/$proj directories? I don't > > see the point of not just putting the example files there? Why making it > &

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:26:12 +0100, a ecrit: > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:22:02 +0100, a ecrit: > > On 19/12/24 10:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > > > * A

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:22:02 +0100, a ecrit: > On 19/12/24 10:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > > > * Admin can override the standard configuration via /etc/$proj/foo.conf > > [...] > >

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gioele Barabucci, le jeu. 19 déc. 2024 10:15:47 +0100, a ecrit: > * Admin can override the standard configuration via /etc/$proj/foo.conf [...] > Upstream projects are moving to this style. I hope that one day Debian > packages will stop shipping files under /etc. Having pre-filled configuration f

Re: speech question.

2024-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 17:34:36 -0800, a ecrit: > It's an intel pch card if that can help you guys. We need more details, such as lspci, kernel logs about possibly loading a kernel, etc. Samuel

Re: speech question.

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 16:07:04 -0800, a ecrit: >  When installing using the latest testing image I get no speech in the > console, but from the terminal espeakup shows it's installed and running. Did you check the audio volumes? Perhaps also check what journalctl -u espeaku

Re: speech question.

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 17:23:31 -0800, a ecrit: > Maybe a feature could be added to detect different cards > automatically? It actually is on purpose that espeakup sticks to the card that was used on installation, to avoid spuriously changing card when the user plugs a USB card. Samu

Re: speech question.

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 17:13:17 -0800, a ecrit: > Is there a program in Debian that will tell me the sound card this computer > has? cat /proc/asound/cards Samuel

Re: speech question.

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mike Coulombe, le sam. 16 nov. 2024 16:45:31 -0800, a ecrit: > When I used the net installer to install bookworm, it saw my > internal card, but the latest testing image didn't so I had to use an USB > speaker it did see. Ah, then espeakup is kept configured to use that card. Change ALSA_CARD in /

Re: RFC: packages that can be installed by the user but not used as build dependencies

2024-08-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, le lun. 19 août 2024 20:17:08 -0300, a ecrit: > But users would love to have something like 'qt6-full-dev'. And the > reason we never provided them with this meta-package is that package > maintainers would use it almost everywhere, dragging the whole Q

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tomas Pospisek, le mar. 21 mai 2024 17:22:47 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Quoting Victor Gamper (2024-05-17 21:58:58) > > > For i386 there is a severe lack of person-power. Do you want to start > > > contributing your free-time for several years to come to d-i and > > > other areas > > > which are

Re: Re: Make /tmp/ a tmpfs and cleanup /var/tmp/ on a timer by default [was: Re: systemd: tmpfiles.d not cleaning /var/tmp by default]

2024-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Barak A. Pearlmutter, le lun. 06 mai 2024 11:15:35 +0100, a ecrit: > To me, the purpose of /var/tmp/ when I have my "user" hat on is: a > place to put files I don't want backed up, particularly large ones, > and which if I run out of disk space is a place to look for stuff to > delete. it's not "a

Re: time_t progress report

2024-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le dim. 24 mars 2024 16:45:02 +, a ecrit: > On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 at 13:09:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Simon McVittie, le dim. 24 mars 2024 11:59:50 +, a ecrit: > > > For the specific example of pipewire, I've suggested temporarily > >

Re: Re: time_t progress report

2024-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le dim. 24 mars 2024 11:59:50 +, a ecrit: > On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 at 12:56:52 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > 2. FTBFSing packages (those that block further work, anyway) > ... > > An example of a currently existing obstacle of this kind is snapd-glib > > (mainly because it

Re: 64-bit time_t transition: cargo needs manual intervention

2024-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andrea Bolognani, le mer. 13 mars 2024 18:03:40 +0100, a ecrit: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 12:34:55PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Simon McVittie, le mer. 13 mars 2024 10:52:35 +, a ecrit: > > > 2. i386 is 32-bit but has been excluded from the 64-bit time_t transition &g

Re: 64-bit time_t transition: cargo needs manual intervention

2024-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, le mer. 13 mars 2024 10:52:35 +, a ecrit: > 2. i386 is 32-bit but has been excluded from the 64-bit time_t transition >because its major purpose this decade is running legacy 32-bit binaries, >a purpose that would no longer be possible if it broke ABI >- non-release

Re: Q: uscan with GitHub

2022-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
julien.pu...@gmail.com, le lun. 19 sept. 2022 18:00:37 +0200, a ecrit: > Le lundi 19 septembre 2022 à 20:50 +0900, Hideki Yamane a écrit : > > > >  Recent changes in GitHub releases pages, I cannot check upstream > > version with uscan. How do you deal with it? > > It's not that recent ; here is

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Guillem Jover, le mer. 14 sept. 2022 13:38:01 +0200, a ecrit: > Something else to consider is that, for packages that make sense > porting, deny-listing them from building means we do not have build > failure logs, so deciding what to port or trying to check for patterns > becomes more costly for h

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Tobias Frost, le lun. 12 sept. 2022 18:36:09 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 05:11:46PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Tobias Frost, le lun. 12 sept. 2022 16:08:08 +0200, a ecrit: > > > The problem is that if you want to exclude an arch explicitly, you have to > &

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tobias Frost, le lun. 12 sept. 2022 16:08:08 +0200, a ecrit: > The problem is that if you want to exclude an arch explicitly, you have to > list all archs you want to build it on. IOW, I'm missing an easy way to say > "not on THIS architecture", somthing like "[!armel]" Yes, but see below

Re: packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, le dim. 11 sept. 2022 21:16:08 +0200, a ecrit: > On 11-09-2022 17:08, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > We could for instance: > > - Add an Architecture-FTBFS field to debian/control > > - Add an environment variable to debian/rules so that on these archs dh > >

packages expected to fail on some archs

2022-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, We have been discussing a bit on #debian-ports about packages that fail to build on less-mainstream architectures. The issue we see is that some DDs end up setting a hardcoded list in the "Architecture" field, rather than just letting builds keep failing on these archs (and then possibly s

Bug#1019276: ITP: nvda2speechd -- A bridge between Windows applications and Speech dispatcher

2022-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org * Package name: nvda2speechd Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Rastislav Kish * URL : https://github.com/RastislavKish

Bug#1017478: ITP: otf2 -- Open Trace Format support library

2022-08-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: otf2 Version : 2.3.0 Upstream Author : TU dresden * URL : https://www.vi-hps.org/projects/score-p/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Re: Help needed with a dh_shlibs failure on non amd64 platforms

2022-07-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Martin Quinson, le lun. 04 juil. 2022 09:29:54 +0200, a ecrit: > dpkg-shlibdeps -Tdebian/libns3.36.substvars > debian/libns3.36/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libns3-wimax.so.36.1 x86_64-linux-gnu is only valid for amd64. In ./debian/rules: -DCMAKE_INSTALL_RUNSTATEDIR=/run -DCM

Re: Lintian breaks existing lintian-overrides due to added []

2022-06-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Axel Beckert, le mer. 29 juin 2022 15:49:11 +0200, a ecrit: > > I consider these [] not helpful […] no visible advantage. > > The advantage is to clearly mark what is a file with potentially a > line number in the output of lintian so that further processors like > the lintian website can

Re: Keep both images but stop pretending no-free is unofficial

2022-04-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Pirate Praveen, le mer. 20 avril 2022 19:47:31 +0530, a ecrit: > 2022, ഏപ്രിൽ 20 1:52:45 PM IST, Ansgar ൽ എഴുതി > >On Wed, 2022-04-20 at 12:55 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> liberated.computer it is refurbished and some components like wifi > >> cards replaced so it works with 100% free software

Re: Firmware - what are we going to do about it?

2022-04-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, le mer. 20 avril 2022 09:07:47 -0400, a ecrit: > On 2022-04-20 08:39, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, le mer. 20 avril 2022 08:32:13 -0400, a > > ecrit: > >> Answer bellow this awful piece of text from some

Re: Firmware - what are we going to do about it?

2022-04-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside, le mer. 20 avril 2022 08:32:13 -0400, a ecrit: > Answer bellow this awful piece of text from someone who doesn't know how > to make a space between line. For information, reading mails with a speech synthesis doesn't necessarily render spaces between lines.

Re: debian-faq in NEW - or: remove documentation from the archive at all

2022-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Bo YU, le lun. 04 avril 2022 09:09:53 +0800, a ecrit: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2022 at 01:18:37PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > > debian-faq is waiting in NEW queue for more than 4 months now (upload is > > from 23.11.2021), with no visible activity from ftp-masters (and even with > > no > > mes

Re: releasing major library change to unstable without coordination

2021-12-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonas Smedegaard, le jeu. 23 déc. 2021 00:45:23 +0100, a ecrit: > Is it normal and ok to upload a new major release of a library to > unstable, without either a) testing that reverse dependencies do not > break, or b) coordinating with maintainers of reverse dpendencies > _before_ such upload?

Bug#995989: ITP: libbraille-input -- Braille input engine for IBus-Braille and Sharada-Braille-Writer.

2021-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: libbraille-input Version : 0.7.3 Upstream Author : Nalin * URL : https://github.com/zendalona/libbraille-input * License : GPL Programming

Bug#995988: ITP: sbw -- Simple text editor with braille input

2021-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: sbw Version : 3.6 Upstream Author : Nalin * URL : https://github.com/zendalona/sbwhttps://github.com/zendalona/sbw * License : GPL

Re: dpkg taking a bit too long ...

2021-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Norbert Preining, le mar. 05 oct. 2021 21:24:36 +0900, a ecrit: > $ time eatmydata dpkg -i > /var/cache/apt/archives/papirus-icon-theme_20211001-1_all.deb > (Reading database ... 1215786 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack .../papirus-icon-theme_20211001-1_all.deb ..

Re: Looking for Estonian DD-s

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Wouter Verhelst, le mer. 25 août 2021 17:06:39 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 04:12:43AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:31 PM Aivar Annamaa wrote: > > > > > Is here someone, who can meet me in Tartu, Estonia or is willing to > > > arrange this over the internet? P

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nilesh Patra wrote: > Using experimental directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for > unstable also. No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change anything. You have to explicitly request installing a given package from experimental to pull it from experimenta

Bug#987171: ITP: libdumbtts -- Helper library for dumb speech synthesizers

2021-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-accessibil...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libdumbtts Version : 0.3.2 Upstream Author : Bohdan R. Rau * URL : http://www.polip.com/files/ * License

Re: Fixed release dates are hurting quality

2021-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andrey Rahmatullin, le dim. 07 févr. 2021 19:41:01 +0500, a ecrit: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 02:20:28PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > the packages being untouched for a long time in some cases meaning there > > > is > > > no guarantee for quality. > >

Re: Fixed release dates are hurting quality

2021-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Just answering the subject. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz, le dim. 07 févr. 2021 13:40:39 +0100, a ecrit: > I just noticed how maintainers are NMU'ing packages in large quantities to > get them somehow in a usable state for the release. I don't think this is related to fixing the release date

Re: Updating dpkg-buildflags to enable reproducible=+fixfilepath by default

2021-01-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, le sam. 09 janv. 2021 15:53:41 -0300, a ecrit: > # __FILE__ is a public, well defined API ? My copy of C11 says “ __FILE__ The presumed name of the current source file (a character string literal) ” that's not so well-defined. I would not expect it to nece

Re: On doing 540 no-source-change source-only uploads in two weeks

2020-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, le jeu. 31 déc. 2020 12:45:09 +, a ecrit: > I'll post the list of packages (sorted by ddlist) to debian-devel@lists.d.o > shortly and will then amend this blog post to link to that mail. I was about to ask for such a list :D I'll gladly upload my long-no-upload packages, probab

Re: apt ignoring check-valid-until flag

2020-12-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Wise, le mer. 16 déc. 2020 22:53:45 +, a ecrit: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:06 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Does anyone have any idea what I'm missing? > > It seems to be saying that the 2019 ports archive signing key used for > signing the snapshot URLs is expired, I d

Re: Allowed to build-depend a pkg in main on a pkg in non-free?

2020-09-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roland Fehrenbacher, le mer. 30 sept. 2020 20:47:58 +0200, a ecrit: >Is the only solution here then really to have two source packages > with exactly the same upstream source and only a difference in > the way the binaries are built and what they depend upon? That's what I do with starpu and hwloc

Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexis Murzeau, le lun. 24 août 2020 15:41:36 +0200, a ecrit: > While 7 days in summer is rather small (some may have a month in > vacation), > you can have something in your TODO list for 9 years, but > still reply to anyone asking a mail just saying something like: Sure, but not everybody will d

Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sudip Mukherjee, le lun. 24 août 2020 14:09:21 +0100, a ecrit: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:50 PM Holger Levsen wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:21:25PM +0100, Sudip Mukherjee wrote: > > > If the maintainer is truly unavailable [...] > > > > well, yes, but here someone hasn't replied to an

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 13:32:05 -0700, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > > Concerning base64-encoded text files, it's quite borderline. Possibly > > some editor do support opening base64-encoded files, then it's fine to > > have this as source

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 12:08:18 -0700, a ecrit: > Surely the QR code is an encoding of a string? Yes, but can you easily modify the URL in that form? Do you have an editor that can open it as such and let you check and modify the URL? > In other words, to me this feels like claiming

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphael Hertzog, le lun. 30 mars 2020 10:14:13 +0200, a ecrit: > And on the opposite, if upstream changes the link, the you break it > without noticing Agreed, indeed. > (unless you put even more code to first extract the link from the > picture and then re-encode it). Actually that would argue

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Shengjing Zhu, le lun. 30 mars 2020 15:53:18 +0800, a ecrit: > IMO, the QR picture is preferred form of modification as well as the > origin text. Is there a program which takes a QR code, allows to modify the URL and the picture in the middle, and write the new QR code with the picture? > And, I

Re: trimming changelogs

2020-03-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Boyuan Yang, le jeu. 19 mars 2020 20:58:57 -0400, a ecrit: > Maybe we can keep changelog of up to 10 entries or till the time of 5 years > ago As a user, I would like to see changelog until at least the previous Debian release, to be able to grep through it for changes when I happend to fi

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Svante Signell, le lun. 10 févr. 2020 12:18:37 +0100, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 16:40 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Nice, the first thing I'll do is to shut down the Debian/GNU Hurd > > > buildd mahler. > > > Can't you see you are

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
(leaving the other parts of threads to later, when I'll get time to think what useful answer I can give, beyond just apologizing) Svante Signell, le lun. 10 févr. 2020 18:27:55 +0100, a ecrit: > Regarding your opinion about the GR becomes very clear by reading > https://hartmans.livejournal.com/9

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alf Gaida, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 17:18:09 +0100, a ecrit: > Am 08.02.20 um 16:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > > Anything else? > > > Yes, you forget something - as long the discussion culture in Debian > stays this way i'm not motivated to start my NM process again. Please really do not take

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 16:15:13 +0100, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 14:51 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > > > Svante> Perhaps all [...] ought to leave the project, including > > > Sv

Bug#950940: ITP: pocketsphinx-python -- Speech recognition tool - Python3 bindings

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: pocketsphinx-python Version : 0.1.15 Upstream Author : Dmitry Prazdnichnov * URL : https://github.com/bambocher/pocketsphinx-python/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello Sam, Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > Svante> Perhaps all [...] ought to leave the project, including > Svante> those having package not being dependent on systemd. > > I am frustrated reading this. > It sounds like you were suggesting that people should leave a

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 13:03:20 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 21:12 +, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Unfortunately, I think that Debian has decided that's not directly our > > focus. > > Just to make sure: If I submit patches for the Debian installer for support of > more tha

Re: Y2038 - best way forward in Debian?

2020-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Wouter Verhelst, le ven. 07 févr. 2020 14:46:19 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:31:16AM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 at 09:28:24 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Why not? This seems like the type of problem that SONAMEs are made for. > > > What am I missing?

Bug#947955: general: Windows on second (external) screen are blurry after notebook sleep

2020-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: reassign -1 gnome-shell Matthias Brennwald, le ven. 03 janv. 2020 14:14:28 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:15:29 +0100 Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Matthias Brennwald, le jeu. 02 janv. 2020 20:06:27 +0100, a ecrit: > > > the win

Bug#947955: general: Windows on second (external) screen are blurry after notebook sleep

2020-01-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Matthias Brennwald, le jeu. 02 janv. 2020 20:06:27 +0100, a ecrit: > the windows that have been opened before activating sleep mode are > blurry. Newly opened windows are not affected. > The issue happens with windows from all programs, not just a specific program. > Moving or resizing the

Re: devscripts uninstallable in Debian Sid due to unmet dependencies

2019-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Otto Kekäläinen, le dim. 06 oct. 2019 10:40:17 +0300, a ecrit: > It seems devscripts cannot be installed in Sid at the moment. I was > not able to find a bug report about this on bugs.debian.org and I > cannot follow up the dependencies on what package actually is stopping > it. > > Anybod

Re: Rethinking tensorflow build (taking shortcuts)

2019-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Daniele Nicolodi, le ven. 04 oct. 2019 12:27:08 -0600, a ecrit: > On 04-10-2019 10:04, Mo Zhou wrote: > > The only officially supported build system for Tensorflow is > > bazel[1], which is not present in our archive due to some reasons. > > For those not following closely, can you please point to

Re: Rethinking tensorflow build (taking shortcuts)

2019-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mo Zhou, le ven. 04 oct. 2019 09:37:25 -0700, a ecrit: > On the other hand, ff the user wants significantly different stuff, > they have to re-generate a buildlog and update the parser accordingly. > > Not bad, right? Better than nothing, sure :) Samuel

Re: Rethinking tensorflow build (taking shortcuts)

2019-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Enrico Zini, le ven. 04 oct. 2019 18:33:44 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 06:25:21PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Interesting :) But then if one wants to add some files to the software, > > which changes the dependencies, are we able to insert it correctl

Re: Rethinking tensorflow build (taking shortcuts)

2019-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mo Zhou, le ven. 04 oct. 2019 09:04:25 -0700, a ecrit: > Another angle for addressing the building problem is in the > reverse-engineering style: parse the bazel buildlog, rebuild the > dependency graph and generate a ninja build for it. See [2]. Interesting :) But then if one wants to add

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-09-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 18 sept. 2019 16:46:14 -0400, a ecrit: > We could stop caring about sysvinit (which isn't quite the same thing > but is related). That would leave non-linux ports in an unfortunate > position. But right now there are no non-linux ports in the main > archive. So perha

Re: How to give back a build

2019-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeff, le jeu. 12 sept. 2019 19:02:15 +0200, a ecrit: > How can I give back the build? Please read the Misc Developer News on d-d-a :) https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/08/msg3.html Samuel

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 14:10:13 -0400, a ecrit: > and it also avoids the double-compilation build time extension. (I > assume that's what you were referring to when you mentioned "avoid the > two-times-longer build time", right?) Yes. Samuel

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 13:25:32 -0400, a ecrit: > How important is noudeb, and why is defined in the first place? My usage of noudeb is mostly to avoid the two-times-longer build time Samuel

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Goirand, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 11:57:45 +0200, a ecrit: > So if I understand correctly, I can just rebuild everything and do > source-only uploads, and the Debian infra will be smart enough to > understand how to build? Yes. Only the dependency loops pose problem. Samuel

Re: Programs contain ads - acceptable for packaging for Debian?

2019-06-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bagas Sanjaya, le jeu. 20 juin 2019 20:16:08 +0700, a ecrit: > > On 20/06/19 20.11, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > Quoting Bagas Sanjaya : > > > Such ads is displayed only when users have Internet connection, and > > > there is no way to patch ZZZ in order to remove ads (or we have to > > > buy "pro

Bug#930638: ITP: gla11y -- Automatic check of accessibility of .ui files

2019-06-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: gla11y Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Samuel Thibault * URL : https://github.com/hypra/gla11y * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Automatic check of

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Adam Borowski, le mar. 11 juin 2019 03:15:21 +0200, a ecrit: > The text console is restricted to 256/512 characters at one time only > because of some ancient hardware. D-i uses by default bterm, which avoid such limitation, and has some support for more languages, e.g. right-to-left. Sam

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan Carter, le lun. 22 avril 2019 21:42:33 +0200, a ecrit: > On 2019/04/22 20:00, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > So I could produce some hurd CD images with the archive from this > > week-end. Aurélien injected the hurd-i386 archive to debian-ports, and > > we got the bui

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:16:54 +0200, a ecrit: > Holger Levsen, le sam. 13 avril 2019 09:50:25 +, a ecrit: > > I can see how the ftpteam doesnt want to delay this *after* the Buster > > release, > > Ok, if it can't be after Buster releases be

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Thanks for the feedback. In the accessibility team we had interest in https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech but I got quickly afraid but the mention of "TensorFlow" in dependencies, it seems I was right in not taking time to have a look, unfortunately. Samuel

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Aurelien Jarno, le dim. 14 avril 2019 16:08:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On 2019-04-12 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the > > time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. > > Note that there is no need for

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Carsten Schoenert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:41:25 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 13.04.19 um 12:06 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > >> Both architectures haven't seen any major development in the past years > > > > They have. > > O.k. need to be more specific, so the same as y

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:36:54 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > He rightfully means he does not want patches, but patches getting > > submitted upstream, so he does not have to maintain them. A Debian > > pack

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