esn't cost us much,
and is something we can drop in the not too distant future if/when we
like -- and after we do, I suspect we'll be a lot less likely to see
random bugs filed about strange breakages caused by old vestigial
packages, and we can be a lot more confident when we deci
Rob Browning writes:
> I agree (as far as emacsXY and guile-X.Y are concerned). Anyone should
> feel free to reassign them to emacs24 (or guile-2.0 respectively).
>
> Otherwise, I'll plan to do it.
And I hope it goes without saying, but I'm always happy to have help
stgresql migration work.
I agree (as far as emacsXY and guile-X.Y are concerned). Anyone should
feel free to reassign them to emacs24 (or guile-2.0 respectively).
Otherwise, I'll plan to do it.
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I ask because if we have one, I'd like to use it to replace the tsort
mess in emacsen-common.
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Thoughts?
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Daniel Pittman writes:
> 403 Forbidden: You don't have permission to access
> /~rlb/tmp/emacs23/emacs23_23.1+1-2_i386.changes on this server.
OK, that should be fixed now, though I may just take the packages down
since it looks like they've made it to unstable.
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> Daniel Moerner writes:
>
>> Thanks for packaging this, I think you mean:
>>
>> http://alioth.debian.org/~rlb/tmp/emacs23/
>>
>> Daniel
>
> Yes, and thanks.
I've just uploaded 23.1+1-2 which fixes some significant probl
Daniel Moerner writes:
> Thanks for packaging this, I think you mean:
>
> http://alioth.debian.org/~rlb/tmp/emacs23/
>
> Daniel
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I've uploaded the first emacs23 packages (23.1+1-1) to unstable. Please
file bugs as appropriate.
Note that we have also begun the process of removing emacs21 from
unstable/testing.
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> After further investigation, it looks like a lockfile created on a
> noatime (or relatime?) filesystem, without specifying L_PID, can
> never go stale. The problem is in lockfile_check().
It looks like procmail's lockfile doesn
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Someone reported a bug against lockfile-progs, and while
> investigating I noticed a couple of things about liblockfile that
> didn't seem quite right.
After further investigation, it looks like a lockfile created on a
noatime (or r
t time, to
the modification time in order to determine whether or not the lock
file is stale. I'm not sure why it does that, but on a filesystem
mounted with noatime I don't think that lock files created without
L_PID will ever be considered stale.
Does the above seem reas
that it's possible there might be some incompatible changes
before emacs22 moves to unstable, but if so, I expect them to be
minor.
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then they should
be reassigned (or cloned). Otherwise, emacs20 is a very, very low
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>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:20:30PM -0700, Rob Browning wrote:
>> > If I compile a trivial foo.c in the unstable chroot with gcc-3.4, and
>> > then immediately try to run it, it segfaults.
>>
>> You've h
kely, if there might be any people who would want to contact the
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by convenience wrappers around ghostscript, as suggested in #159888?
I don't know, but I thought perhaps someone else might.
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n that would be just fine, but
I was under the perhaps mistaken impression that an LDAP approach
wouldn't be that transparent.
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oblem is that I want a solution that handles all users and
groups, and I want tools like adduser to continue to work correctly.
So far I haven't been able to tell if the behavior of adduser and the
related tools is configurable. I can see how to authenticate against
other sources via lipam, but not
ould tell the system to use a separate directory for the db
files and bind mount that directory among all the chroots, then
perhaps that would fix the locking problem (presuming the default
setup uses fs locks).
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ion fault
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safely?
For this to work right, in addition to everything else, I assume that
Debian policy would also have to guarantee that no package will ever
remove a user/group when purged, and no package will balk if the
user/group it needs already exists.
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certainly prefer to run Debian on it
if I could.
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the idea things were otherwise.
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we
changed our policies or perhaps my memory is mistaken.
Also, I wonder if our handling of /usr/local isn't a bit inconsistent
since it doesn't look like we include /usr/local/lib in the ld.so
defaults.
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als here when gnu.org was
compromised (for example).
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otal evidence
that libfoo can actually end up with access to a mixture of symbols
from both versions of libbaz. If true, this would make it extremely
difficult to actually use a "version check" function to make sure you
loaded and were calling functions from the version you exp
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How about an ordinary meta-package named "emacs"?
That might be OK. Bear in mind that there used to be a real package
named emacs, though, so you should be wary of breaking upgrades from
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release a fixed package shortly.
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sumed that meant replacing one for the
other in my postinst/prerm scripts, but after considering the issue
further, I realized that maybe dpkg-statoverride was only intended for
the local admin, and that I should just ship my file properly sgid
mail. So which interpretation is correct?
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compile a kernel, but if they want a customized kernel, then,
presuming the idea has merit, they would need to install the
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h sides and
then to find a superior solution, I see them beating the crap out of
each other and wasting a lot of time.
Then again, if that wasn't happening, I suppose I'd proabably wonder
if I was reading the wrong list :>
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I'm trying to give up some of my less central packages because I'd
like to spend more time on my others. Is anyone interested in
plotutils?
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hat e2fsck couldn't fix that wasn't a wholesale
drive loss. Is that still worth worrying about?
Also, if you use something like amanda for backups, then you need to
make sure your partitions are smaller than your tape size (after
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sapnp tools.
This would have been useful in the lab on several occasions, so I'm in
favor.
Glad you got things working.
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de other header files (to prevent header file
> bloat). Use forward class references to inform compiler of required data
> types.
What? This sounds *extremely* broken if I understand it correctly.
> 21. Filenames: source files should have .cpp extension.
.cc is much more common (I th
e
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libc6) you
install glibc-doc and look at "info -f /usr/share/info/libc.info".
(It would just be "info libc", but things seem a little hammered right
now during what appears to be the /usr/info to /usr/share/info
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> There is more to unix editors than those two, deal with it, move on.
There is? :>
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like dolphins don't have abstract cognitive processes...
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Right, and they cooperate reasonably well too. Though our more
consertive contingent might not like the fact that they also tend to
be somewhat promiscuous.
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First, we build this large badger...
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install) time :>
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cs/${FULL}/site-lisp 2>/dev/null && \
rmdir /usr/local/share/emacs/${FULL} 2>/dev/null) || true
and as I recall I was pretty careful to try and make sure to put
things in the right files/order when I originally set this stuff up.
So which should it be for the "rm -rf major.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On the rvplayer side, nobody there seems to want to talk about it...
> *sigh*
Always nice to have such clear reminders of the importance of free
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> Is there something like a graphical workspace viewer for Gnome?
Do you mean a file browser, or a pager? If the former, then there's
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ould affect (the
add-on package maintainers), and I also don't have the time to
implement it right now.
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work if the tool needs random access (like gcc)).
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re not going to be able to build
these example files inside /usr/doc (nor should you) anyway, so you'll
have to copy them somewhere else. You can run gunzip on them then and
there's no problem.
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Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> M-x toggle-auto-compression
> M-x auto-compression-mode
Just put
(auto-compression-mode 1)
in your .emacs.
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> rvplayer does not work under Linux 2.1, if that's what you're running.
Thanks. That explains it. Hope it gets fixed soon one way or
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> libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4018)
Ah. You're using the older version, but other than newer versions, I
have all the relevant libs.
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I've installed the rvplayer package, but even something as simple as
rvplayer /usr/doc/rvplayer/examples/welcome.rm
doesn't work. The app comes up, and then it just sits there. Does
this work for others? (verson 5.0-6)
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wbacks)
3) look into cvswrappers
For more info try
$ info cvs
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e are no
other processes that need to do useful work, you don't want to be
sleeping.
Oh, and if you're using IDE drives (and presuming switching to SCSI
isn't an option :>), you might investigate hdparm. It could be that
one of it's options could help (specifically check out i
eally
is just better.
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able. In general you want the weakest test rather than the
strongest so that failures happen sooner rather than later --
i.e. once they've been compounded.
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t; the emacs20 source package. Rob, could you do so in the next version of
> the emacs20 package please? Thanks.
I'm not really an expert on LEIM, so I'm not sure what you're asking
for. What exactly is the problem, and how can I fix it? I'd be happy
to as soon as I unders
27;t think any of these bugs hurt anything,
the compiler does the right thing, it just complains.
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> Is there any technical reason why LEIM (Emacs input methods) is not
> available as a Debian package? If not, I'll package it.
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but acceptable, in my opinion.
I don't think it's a good idea to do anything to make developmental
versions "second-class citizens", especially since we've had many
cases where these versions were the only reasonable versions to be
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ot unreasonable to have the package renamed.
Yep, Debian no longer has a "one true emacs" :> I think this "bug"
should be closed.
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> recourse is to not release "pre-release" versions. I don't think
> that is a good idea, as it wastes our testing manpower, and weakens
> the final product.
Of course. That would be ridiculous. No one sane is arguing in favor
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be a "cleanish" solution to the problem.
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what about video/audio connections. The receiving side has to have a
port open for some period...
This should be fun...
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click their "start
button", but that's the extent of my knowledge. Mainly I don't know
if they've got some proprietary way to configure the connection.
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ncy ordering is needed is in the calls to the add-on pacakges
install scripts that happen en-masse when a flavor of emacs is
installed. A little work with tsort (presuming I can get dpkg to
cooperate at that point and hand over the relevant Depends lines) and
we should have everything fixed up.
fail. So what's the solution?
I suppose you *could* use Pre-Depends, but is that the right answer?
Thinking about it, that really may be the only thing that'll "do what
you mean".
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ommon for
frozen that makes the add-on package dependency issue explicit.
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unstable and frozen. Fortunately a bunch of disk space rained on me
at just the right time...
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the user selects) I'm
not so sure...
I'm beginning to think that I need to fix this *now*.
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*every* change is a *big* no-no :>
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> A good percentage of Debian users (not just developers) are already
> running hamm. Why should we have this academic discussion. Just
> use epochs, use 2.0.7r, use *something*.
I believe Dale's already decided to use 2.0.7r.
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Status: (hamm fixed) (bo known-workaround)
etc. That way we don't have a potentially ever growing number of
fields, just field contents...
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ter I
installed libgnome0, the hello programs died with shared lib problems
until I ran ldconfig.
I don't know if policy's been updated, but contrary to what it used to
say you need a call in one of the install scripts (the postinst, I
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(minor and previously unvoiced) objection to this scheme. It might
even be worth working all this up for potential inclusion in policy
(if we ever get a policy manager again :> )
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just say we should use epochs and get on to more interesting
problems.
> In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several hours,
> I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the version
> number: 2.0.7r-1
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ading by hand, or
an epoch number that they'll probably never see, and an automatic
upgrade?
Being aesthetically opposed to epochs to the degree that you're
willing to force the user to upgrade manually seems unsupportable to
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, but it might make it a lot more
straightforward to handle most of the cases.
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> issue?
If I understand the issue, this should be fixed with an epoch...
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ks in dist/
--regex-include "^dists/[^/]*$"
# now kill everything remaining.
--regex-exclude ".*"
Support for fmirror's "p" and "f" regex distinctions would also save a
lot of ".*" typing, but that's mostly just a frill...
Thanks.
about one or the other.
My favorite these days is lftp, but I'm not sure it qualifies as
simple any more. Now that memory of the last location on a given site
has been added, lftp has all the features I missed from ncftp.
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't fully
realize that until I had a number of *tremendously* frustrating
experiences. I haven't had any aggravations/disappointments to
compare since I started using Debian.
To each their own.
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: f win32.*\.deb
exclude: f lg-(base|issue).*\.deb
exclude: f python.*\.deb
exclude: f kde.*\.deb
exclude: f festvox.*8k_.*\.deb
# Now say what we *do* want.
include: p (dists|hamm)/.*/binary-i386/
include: p (dists|hamm)/.*/binary-all/
include: p ^dists/[^/]*$
# And kill all
#x27;m happy to deal with some ugly hacking to boostrap things if
needed.
Thanks
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their permissions have changed, it handles these modifications itself.
It's biggest failing (as far as I can see), is that it has really
limited inclusion/exclusion mechanisms. For example, it looks like
only one exclude-regexp is supported.
Oh, and anyone else notice that mirror'
s. One is
the normal one you're waiting on for data, and the other is a control
fd. Have thread B issue a (blocking) select on both of them, and if
you need to wake B up immediately, don't use signals (which don't have
the best semantics in the face of threads), just send a byte on t
dify configure.in
to list linux/acct.h first and then re-run autoconf...
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to handle
partial reads (see the man page "man 2 read" for more info, or the
libc info pages).
Note that you can set things up so that interrupted system calls
restart themselves rather than returning with an error, but I don't
recall at the moment which function does that.
-
t; I'll just tolerate whatever happens. It's not like Guy doesn't have
> enough to do ;)
How about just using "cp -r ..." to make the image you're going to
burn, which will flatten all the symlinks in the process. Not having
burned any CD's myself, I don'
quot;flags_recursive+L" option, or run a
command to "flatten" the symlinks.
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x27;s on hold and configured is another story. It really
is installed and it should satsfy all the dependencies it provides as
expected.
All this is assuming I understand the issue at hand...
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> Assuming that you don't have to worry about new files inserted into
> the tree while tmpreaper is running (do you?), then it's probably
> easiest to just do this operation in two passes. (This is off the top
> of my head, so
out file names,
using null as a file name terminator while generating lists, so you
don't get fooled by other characters in filenames.
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