Re: Broken in links in Debian History document - old news removed from www.debian.org

2025-05-31 Thread Philipp Kern
rrange for redirects to archive.org when you hit those pages, but that has not been set up either. But to me the weirdest thing is that quite a few complained and there was no real response rationalizing the decision. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://sal

Re: Package statistics by downloads

2025-05-03 Thread Philipp Kern
essed). Back of the envelope math says that'd be 600 GB/d of raw syslog log traffic. We should have a very good reason for collecting this much data. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Package statistics by downloads

2025-04-23 Thread Philipp Kern
Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: new archive signing keys for Debian 13/trixie

2025-04-06 Thread Philipp Kern
key usage transparency log, I think that's fine - but that'd require an actual proposal, with code integrated into dak. Or optimally more generically in a way where we could also reuse it for other signatures like the ones generated for images. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-16 Thread Philipp Kern
5 people to support it. If we really make this about how to communicate, maybe we should be bolder and consider solutions like Discourse. Which would also have built-in chilling support to discourage from posting too frequently on a topic in favor of addressing multiple points at once. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Change the expectation that emails should wrap at 80 characters

2025-03-03 Thread Philipp Kern
ly. Mine doesn't wrap properly either, especially on wide screens. Neither Thunderbird nor Roundcube. 80 characters are perfectly readable, long-lines are increasingly annoying to read. I can see how that part is a "me" problem. But it also worked perfectly fine before. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Let's make 2025 a year when code reviews became common in Debian

2025-01-25 Thread Philipp Kern
burns up. How is the backup situation? What's the restore process? DSA is doing a daily file backup run using Bacula. PostgreSQL is continuously streamed to the archive server and is probably 10 mins out of date in the worst case - unless something breaks. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people

2025-01-12 Thread Philipp Kern
a LoRA. It's not like inference requires a GPU. But then again saying things like "oh, look, I could easily answer the NM templates with this" is the context you want to put this work in. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people

2025-01-11 Thread Philipp Kern
order to gain the project's trust. (In job interviews candidates already regularly use LLMs in the background to answer the questions. There I think it's still noticable when people claim knowledge that they do not have. In offline communication all bets are off.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: criteria for acceptable languages for central QA tools in Debian

2024-12-21 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2024-12-19 05:13, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Sun 15 Dec 2024 at 11:21pm +01, Philipp Kern wrote: >> Or introduce some subtle bugs that get ironed out only when it sees >> usage. > > Indeed, but this work can end up being very costly. A lot of knowledge > might be built

Re: criteria for acceptable languages for central QA tools in Debian

2024-12-15 Thread Philipp Kern
e see in testing, if not unstable. That would also not give you a version that has either feature parity nor bug freeness - unless you count keeping it installed locally on your machines and never getting updates again. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

2024-12-11 Thread Philipp Kern
s fine.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Should l10n packages be Recommends or Suggests?

2024-12-07 Thread Philipp Kern
Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Should l10n packages be Recommends or Suggests?

2024-12-05 Thread Philipp Kern
? I.e. it would be legit for a program to output in French or Chinese in the C.UTF-8 locale and have a translation to English? Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-11-24 Thread Philipp Kern
d what a username is and think that it reflects how someone wants to be called - as their default assumption. Kind regards Philipp Kern PS: My personal, ignorant, Latin-world opinion is that it is probably too hard for most people to type each others' usernames if UTF-8 were to be allowed.

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-24 Thread Philipp Kern
package built previously (it might also have been miscompiled). In enterprise environments the answer is pinning >= 1000. And keeping packages simple enough that downgrades keep working. I remember a couple of times where the Release team stepped in and reverted maintainer actions that were unfortunately timed - which comes with a large risk of conflict. We have fared ok with the current approach, but it is not an environment of "rollback first, ask questions later" - the overhead is high. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: DEP-18: Git and GitLab usage in other Linux distros (Re: Representing Debian Metadata in Git)

2024-11-23 Thread Philipp Kern
er to roll back. That is very heavyweight today. And that many Debian services do not have appropriate staging environments is also a problem - orthogonal to code review but related to testing practices. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

2024-11-21 Thread Philipp Kern
n. Making builds something based off tasks (e.g. in a pipeline) when a package is uploaded rather than diffing the archive and trying to match the intent is something I would have wanted to see for a long time. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread Philipp Kern
too messy. But then that's a different ask from a weak-depends, as well. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Bug#1084220: ITP: yubikey-touch-detector -- tool to notify you when your YubiKey is waiting for a touch

2024-10-06 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern * Package name: yubikey-touch-detector Version : 1.11.0-1 Upstream Author : Maxim Baz * URL : https://github.com/maximbaz/yubikey-touch-detector * License : ISC Programming Lang: Go Description

Bug#1084221: ITP: golang-github-vtolstov-go-ioctl -- Go wrapper around the ioctl(2) syscall

2024-10-06 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern * Package name: golang-github-vtolstov-go-ioctl Version : 0.0~git20151206.6be9cce-1 Upstream Author : Vasiliy Tolstov * URL : https://github.com/vtolstov/go-ioctl * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go

Bug#1084163: ITP: golang-github-esiqveland-notify -- Go library to deliver desktop notifications over D-Bus

2024-10-05 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern * Package name: golang-github-esiqveland-notify Version : 0.13.3-1 Upstream Author : Eivind Siqveland Larsen * URL : https://github.com/esiqveland/notify * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Go

Bug#1084160: ITP: wego -- weather app for the terminal

2024-10-05 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern * Package name: wego Version : 2.3-1 Upstream Author : Markus Teich * URL : https://github.com/schachmat/wego * License : ISC Programming Lang: Go Description : weather app for the terminal wego is

Bug#1084119: ITP: golang-github-schachmat-ingo -- persistent storage for flags in go

2024-10-05 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern * Package name: golang-github-schachmat-ingo Version : 0.0~git20170403.a4bdc07-1 * URL : https://github.com/schachmat/ingo * License : ISC Programming Lang: Go Description : persistent storage for

Re: ifupdown behaviour with IPv6 DAD failure (Was: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie)

2024-09-23 Thread Philipp Kern
ying bit was the systemd service that was still in a failed state even though the failure condition resolved itself <1s later. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/beware_the_ipv6_dad_race_condition [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705996

Re: Why does Salsa use reCAPTCHA?

2024-09-14 Thread Philipp Kern
change.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Who is taking care of storm.debian.net?

2024-08-12 Thread Philipp Kern
l give you the account name of the domain "owner". What I'd suggest is a CNAME for _acme-challenge.storm instead of putting TXT records into Debian LDAP. Kind regards Philipp Kern OpenPGP_0x50C3634D3A291CF9.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Look for keysign

2024-07-17 Thread Philipp Kern
On 7/17/24 2:15 PM, Brian Smith wrote: Good luck with that. Getting my key signed was the most difficult part of becoming a Debian Maintainer. I couldn't find anyone in Central Texas to do so and finally got mine signed at SC18. Key endorsements[1] exist these days. Kind regards Philipp

Re: i686 require SSE4.1-capable processor?

2024-07-16 Thread Philipp Kern
s not entirely surprising that the compiler then finds more efficient ways to do operations using the new instructions, which will then fail execution with invalid opcode. I'm with Andrey that the bug should be reopened and RC'ed because this is effectively producing a miscompilation

Re: i686 require SSE4.1-capable processor?

2024-07-15 Thread Philipp Kern
C or Debian bug) or example error message or a pointer to possible miscompilation. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Bug#1076153: ITP: dh-rust -- debhelper buildsystem for Rust code

2024-07-11 Thread Philipp Kern
y need to be in the archive to make a point. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Reviving schroot as used by sbuild

2024-07-01 Thread Philipp Kern
s a marginal benefit if you execute the build outside of the VM as well. But it'd shield us more from supply chain issues. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Bug#1072501: ITP: systemd-boot-installer -- Install systemd-boot on a hard disk

2024-06-02 Thread Philipp Kern
ts be owned by d-i is the common setup. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: MBF: Building packages in the (not so distant) future

2024-05-26 Thread Philipp Kern
t that now is the appropriate time to report those bugs). I fixed libinfinity upstream - but would still need to make an upload. It's quite ironic, given that all certs but one had an expiry around the year 3000. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Transparency into private keys of Debian

2024-02-05 Thread Philipp Kern
akes it less secure in my book.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Proposal for how to deal with Go/Rust/etc security bugs

2024-01-25 Thread Philipp Kern
p). If you have stages because intermediate builds incorporate bits of other packages and re-export them into build environments (unlikely?) or if you need to shepherd a lot of failed builds and try to debug what happened, then it becomes a lot more toilsome and labor-intensive. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Bug#1059618: ITP: ssh3 -- faster and rich secure shell using HTTP/3

2023-12-29 Thread Philipp Kern
otocol and bump its version. ssh-h3? Both the paper and the project are very new - so there should not be that many things referring to it yet. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Bug#1058704: ITP: nsncd -- Name service non-caching daemon

2023-12-14 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Kern X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pk...@debian.org * Package name: nsncd Version : 1.4.1 (plus patches[1]) * URL : https://github.com/twosigma/nsncd * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Rust

Re: Misc Developer News (#59)

2023-11-22 Thread Philipp Kern
redirected to d-d and not posted to d-d-a. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: /usr/-only image

2023-09-11 Thread Philipp Kern
way with multiple conflicting systems to put configuration in and how we merge the files when updates are installed. There would need to be some deeper primitives to make this happen. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: systmd-analyze security as a release goal

2023-07-05 Thread Philipp Kern
aries. I remember openssh installing a syscall filter for its auth binary and then it failed with certain PAM modules (see also your allow_ypbind example). So we should also not be too limiting when sandboxing daemons. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-22 Thread Philipp Kern
is too short to manually provision IP addresses on servers. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: proposal: dhcpcd-base as standard DHCP client starting with Trixie

2023-06-19 Thread Philipp Kern
ractice[1]. Ubuntu^WCanonical has been doing its own development in this space as well with netplan. Ubuntu will continue to do its own fixes to glue things together. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] With notable exceptions like doko maintaining the toolchain - and I'm sure I'm not crediting e

Re: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nowerror

2023-02-28 Thread Philipp Kern
s accurately on real hardware. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Populating non-free firmware?

2022-12-25 Thread Philipp Kern
r dak to temporarily export that component into both its own and non-free proper. That'd decouple the migration on the user side. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: ppc64el porterbox replacement: plummer.d.o -> platti.d.o

2022-10-24 Thread Philipp Kern
c64el-porterbox* # requesting: uid # # jwilk, users, debian.org dn: uid=jwilk,ou=users,dc=debian,dc=org uid: jwilk Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: epoch for tss2 package

2022-10-21 Thread Philipp Kern
either. It does pick a winner manually in the resolver and it looks random (or rather in "apt showpkg" order). But it's not like it didn't work. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#virtual-packages-provides

Re: epoch for tss2 package

2022-10-20 Thread Philipp Kern
7;s more flexible by design - to get newer versions from experimental if necessary. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] This might require an overall agreement across Debian at times. But that seems to be more relevant for dependencies than build-dependencies.

Re: Sunsetting sso.debian.org

2022-10-17 Thread Philipp Kern
ghtly different HTTP header. If there are API clients talking to it, it might be slightly more involving to setup - but it's not like other people haven't had to deal with getting OIDC tokens for various APIs before. :) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: adduser default for sgid home directories

2022-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern
rprising" (less surprising?) is obviously false. "No change" is always less surprising than any change, whatever the rationale is. It can also be unsurprising from an end-user's perspective. For someone new to the system. So that line of argument does not really hold. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

2022-07-19 Thread Philipp Kern
nt of ancient server-side implementations when the right kinds of switches are passed to it (e.g. KexAlgorithms and HostKeyAlgorithms). I have yet to be unable to actually connect to a target - even if it means fiddling increasingly with flags. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: popularity-contest: support for XB-Popcon-Reports: no

2022-05-04 Thread Philipp Kern
at they are doing[1]. I just fear that it won't actually solve your denylisting problem at hand. People will keep not specifying it. Can't popcon go and just accept reports for packages in the archive somehow? Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] Although most might disable popcon anyway.

Re: partman, growlight, discoverable partitions, and fun

2021-09-26 Thread Philipp Kern
ent. FAI's setup-storage is obviously better. But good riddance to the lack of sensible debugging of the shell script horror story that is the existing system. :) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Bug#993488: maybe reason for wontfix?

2021-09-03 Thread Philipp Kern
ions. That's inherent to the design. If you want more guarantees, you need to move from discretionary access control (based on the identity at the time of process (tree) creation) to mandatory access control (e.g. SELinux). Kind regards Philipp Kern

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-03 Thread Philipp Kern
to use in the future. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://letsencrypt.org/2020/12/21/extending-android-compatibility.html

Re: Q: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-08-21 Thread Philipp Kern
some (somewhat insecure) defense in depth if we wanted to, but maybe the world just agreed that you need to get your clock roughly correct. ;-) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Q: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-08-19 Thread Philipp Kern
. Except for the security archive, where https can prevent a man-in-the-middle from serving you outdated information and thus deprive you from updates. For a week until Valid-Until expires. Note that the denial of service equally works for HTTPS, it's just more noisy. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Debian package manager privilege escalation attack

2021-08-12 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2021-08-12 17:56, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:44:24 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2021-08-12 12:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Now if people start doing stuff they don't master than it's not privilege escalation but much more something like another man

Re: Debian package manager privilege escalation attack

2021-08-12 Thread Philipp Kern
every one fighting for themselves. Now of course there's value in people having this knowledge and companies should recognize this value. But from communication and awareness we learn, no? Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] E.g. thinking of https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/

Re: Debian package manager privilege escalation attack

2021-08-12 Thread Philipp Kern
t feels like a different, more general problem. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: automatic NEW processing [was Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd]

2021-07-14 Thread Philipp Kern
e with NEW processing for both for the maintainer and to the FTP team. I do recall that the FTP masters would've been generally open to have such an auto-approver (but maybe I'm wrong), but that no-one stepped up yet to code it up? Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Thanks and Decision making working group (was Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result)

2021-04-20 Thread Philipp Kern
ing a vote process and be obstructionist than it is to upload a compromised package. :) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Thanks and Decision making working group (was Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result)

2021-04-20 Thread Philipp Kern
on in that case (4.2.2.5). A single person being able to block consensus of basically everyone else feels like opening up the process to unconstructive behavior. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Possible DEP proposal - contribution preferences

2021-02-02 Thread Philipp Kern
s are introduced by blindly updating debhelper compat levels - staying at a deprecated compat level is better than a not properly tested compat bump. To be fair: You can assert statically if the compat bump did not introduce any changes (by compiling twice). Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-24 Thread Philipp Kern
nt of view. But I don't think it makes a strong case for availability of libre firmware for wifi cards. Especially if you care about spectral efficiency, i.e. using a shared medium efficiently. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LinuxLibre:Devices_that_require_non-free_firmware

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-17 Thread Philipp Kern
at the question here is. You get NAT. You even get NAT to your WiFi - i.e. you can use it as a glorified USB WiFi device (at least with Android). I have successfully either fixed or installed Debian through a cell phone in the past because there was no other way at hand. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-17 Thread Philipp Kern
rmware in non-free, of course, as it needs to be signed for the most common DSPs - and cannot be rebuilt reproducibly. I guess we are not the target here either but instead it's for vendors basing their firmware on one common architecture. So even when we get close, we don't seem to get all the way. :( Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Making Debian available, non-free promotor

2021-01-16 Thread Philipp Kern
the buildd network it is also still an unsolved question how to allow build-depending on a (small, allowlisted) subset of non-free. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Package dependency versions and consistency

2020-12-30 Thread Philipp Kern
a delta scheme might only make that worse. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://cor3ntin.github.io/posts/abi/

Re: Architecture: all binNMUs (was: deduplicating jquery/)

2020-12-06 Thread Philipp Kern
an > maintainers. Given the whole source code trust story it'd be better if dak were to do it by itself rather than relying on an external service to do it. (Or we make it culturally allowed to do it using client-side tooling, as long as it is a no-change-but-debian/changelog upload.) Kind

Re: Allowed to build-depend a pkg in main on a pkg in non-free?

2020-09-30 Thread Philipp Kern
sible for someone who > *only* uses main to download the source, install the build dependencies, > and successfully build the package themselves. Doing *that* must not > require anything outside of main. Somewhat ironically not depending on anything but main is also true for non-free and contrib. (At least when you want it to be built by the official builders.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Philipp Kern
rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It >> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. > > Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses. Sure, but I'd expect that state to be temporary, no? Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Philipp Kern
ate in the first place? Everyone who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: The "which -s" flag

2020-08-31 Thread Philipp Kern
l, it looks like GNU which was last updated in 2015 (both tarball and CVS) and despite GNU redirecting to a github.io page it doesn't look like there is any more up-to-date repository of it either. So I'm not sure if maintenance is a great argument here. Although I will note that Archlinux does not actually patch it. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Bug#968507: O: icon-naming-utils -- script for maintaining backwards compatibility of Tango Project

2020-08-16 Thread Philipp Kern
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I intend to orphan the icon-naming-utils package. Last upstream release was 11 years ago. There is effectively no churn in this package. It is also a required build dependency for a bunch of icon themes: # Broken Build-Depends: extra-xdg-menus: icon-naming-utils gn

Re: Salsa update: no more "-guest" and more

2020-04-28 Thread Philipp Kern
owners have to do this today for good reasons. That pushes the cost elsewhere of course. On the other hand it's not the worst idea to require signatures on all commits instead. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Salsa update: no more "-guest" and more

2020-04-28 Thread Philipp Kern
ts that. I mean I don't want to suggest that buying hardware is required, but that's literally what they were designed for. Automatically dealing with origin information sanely and then a touch signs you in. OTPs are as fishable as passwords. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: FTP Team -- call for volunteers

2020-03-15 Thread Philipp Kern
to look at potential whitelisting code, but I think last time someone tried a big refactoring and introduction of tests was required of them prior to the contribution - which is a high bar after getting dak to run properly for development purposes first.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Master-Slave terminology Re: [Piuparts-devel] piuparts.d.o stalled?

2020-02-13 Thread Philipp Kern
re, for which allowlist and rejectlist are terms that actually describe what is happening in most contexts. Of course communities also build up some slang to see who is "in" the group and who is "out". But it actually makes things more accessible to others if you describe things as they are. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-05 Thread Philipp Kern
that journalctl's (and also systemctl status') performance reading journal files is still pretty awful on spinning rust[1]. At times this makes me go to text logs instead because slicing the files using tail and grep is much, much faster. Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] I think this

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Philipp Kern
oice for *periodic jobs* that we should document as the default unless there is a reason to use something else. It does not need to be cron, though. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Philipp Kern
voted and if those people are the most active in the project. But I don't think that this is particularly useful distinction. For the best we know the others did not care enough to vote (or were unable to for technical reasons) and were thus ok with any outcome. Also we welcome people to join the proj

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly

2019-10-29 Thread Philipp Kern
be the correct solution for consistent versioning across all architectures. Ubuntu exclusively does those and I still struggle how we would build such a service in Debian without facing exactly the same concerns as tag2upload. Maybe if dak itself would do it? Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Debian and our frenemies of containers and userland repos

2019-10-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-10-07 13:43, Johannes Schauer wrote: Quoting Philipp Kern (2019-10-07 13:21:36) On 10/7/2019 1:17 PM, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:29 PM Simon McVittie wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Oct 2019 at 07:22:53 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: >>> Specifically, curren

Re: Debian and our frenemies of containers and userland repos

2019-10-07 Thread Philipp Kern
ke bootstrapping faster rather than trusting random binaries on the internet. (Unless we grow an "assemble an image from debs" service on, say, ftp-master.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Mozilla Firefox DoH to CloudFlare by default (for US users)?

2019-09-28 Thread Philipp Kern
s probably worth pointing out that Firefox's use of Cloudflare's DoH endpoint is governed by a different policy outlined here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/firefox/ Per that policy, other third parties can only get the data with Mozilla's written permissions. And APNIC (or any other third party) is not mentioned. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Git Packaging: Native source formats

2019-08-29 Thread Philipp Kern
ould be. Some can be addressed through wrapper scripts, but then it's odd to anyone familiar with Debian. Obviously I'm not bound to that format being "3.0 (native)" but some "3.0 (dumb)" that just tars up the whole tree without caring about the version scheme would then be nice to have as a replacement. ;-) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

2019-08-19 Thread Philipp Kern
e sysv generator as well as daemon options not being sufficiently tightly speced out in native unit files. After all, you do want to give daemons some time to stop. But at least with systemd you know when the process has exited. Also I mostly saw this taking a long time around deactivation of devices (swap, crypto). (Although I question why you'd disable swap given the consequence of getting everything back in, but alas.) Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Philipp Kern
d you can deny service startup, which is also what the builders do. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Philipp Kern
e pinned systemd-sysv to > -100 to avoid repeating the last unfortunate incident where I had to drive > to the colo facility. You want dbus-x11 instead of dbus-user-session then, I think. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

2019-08-08 Thread Philipp Kern
ey have set for themselves. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

2019-08-08 Thread Philipp Kern
d, but that might not be universally accepted, I guess. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-08-07 18:51, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2019-08-07 10:19:00 +0200 (+0200), Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:29:41 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: [...] > I'd still expect a Cloud/Compute provider to offer default > images in any case that could be preconfigured appropria

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-08-06 13:43, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:29:41PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: And finally, the load spikes: Upthread it was mentioned that RandomizedDelaySec exists. Generally this should be sufficient to even out such effects. I understand that there is a case

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-08-05 Thread Philipp Kern
gize that I think of this in terms of systemd primitives. But the tool was written for a reason and a lot of thought went into it. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?

2019-07-29 Thread Philipp Kern
the logs. Obviously, I don't think it is a good idea to break this for non-systemd users because of difficulties making it work properly with systemd. Perhaps I have misunderstood you ? To be honest, that's something that the compatibility/init diversity folks then need to figure out. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: file(1) now with seccomp support enabled

2019-07-28 Thread Philipp Kern
ks except sometimes when the filters need to be adjusted. And as you can see Gentoo deals with that just fine and we could accept some breakage in unstable too, as long as the migration of the breaking library is stopped until the fix for the dependencies is in. Kind regards Philipp Kern

Re: file(1) now with seccomp support enabled

2019-07-27 Thread Philipp Kern
one rather than its main process. But it's also not doing the environment cleanup AFAICS. Kind regards and thanks for making all of us more secure! :) Philipp Kern

Re: Dropping Release and Release.gpg support from APT

2019-07-15 Thread Philipp Kern
ally that would have been solved by InRelease... Kind regards Philipp Kern [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926035

Re: Dropping Release and Release.gpg support from APT

2019-07-10 Thread Philipp Kern
InRelease files (not to mention that it doubles the traffic for no-change cases), I'm surprised they aren't using InRelease files yet. Given the timeline, shouldn't we also get oldstable to ship an InRelease file? Kind regards Philipp Kern

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