On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:53:26PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
> >
>
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:44:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:19:28PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:19:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe that if you cared to do the research on Usenet and mailing
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:40:06PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
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> > I guess someone from a culture with a caste system would believe that:
> > It is justified to sneer and think inferior certain people.
> > We don't buy that shit here.
>
>
I've noticed that and the "Godwin" (with no mention o
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:25:31PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> >Adamant about the seperation of state and non-christian churches[0].
> >But, of course us weirdos[1] in california decided the pledge was
> >unconstitutional... of course I'm sure that was overturned[2].
> No, not overturned. Wai
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 07:39:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:49:06 -0800, Nunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:38:45AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:05:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
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> ... neither of the two above, who are pretty obviously losers (even though
> they're certainly on very different sides; surprise, sometimes there's
> more than two of 'em).
>
> There's more than one actual difference between
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
>
> Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
> on Debian
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
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> Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the
> large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed
> religions, which form a significantly more than majority share of the
> population of the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:35:54AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> | You are totally rationalizing.
>
> *sigh* From Branden's original post where he mentioned the names:
>
> > We might use names from Christian demonology (since the BSD mascot
> > is the cute and devilish "daemon"), with the firs
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
> beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to
> an eternity of suffering as hate speech (and I generally do), I'm on the
> catching end o
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
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> He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics.
>
> Godwin.
Copout.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:19:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
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> I believe that if you cared to do the research on Usenet and mailing list
> debates of this kind, my statement above is defensible as fact on rigorous
> statistical grounds. But I don't care enough to do the work to prove that
> to
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> > > And way out from Right Field...
> >
> > http://www.nizkor.org/features/fal
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back and count the # of "christians are stupid" statements
substitute any racial or ethnic group for christians
see how the statemen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a
> > Christian demon" and here's you're saying "yes it is." :-)
>
> Er, no. I'm not. I'm saying that Christian demons are derived from Greek
> daemons; that isn't t
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> > demon name for keyword if possible.
>
> Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
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> "The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek
> concept of daemon"
Basically, no arguments with what you said, except I find inconsistent
the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:38:45AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
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> | I don't believe in magical beings. I *do* believe some humans
> | intentionally set out to hurt other humans. Branden's beliefs and
> | sne
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
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> Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of
> "parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he'd be proud
> of it. But you'll see for yourself, soon enough.
I don't believe in magical beings. I *
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort
> > &
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:24:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> [snip]
> > I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects
> > in general conversation: politics, sex, religion.
>
> Yeah,
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort
> of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of the
> thread.
That's another opinion expressed as a generalization. I think you
better qu
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:29:15PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> And, pray tell, why is that? Hindu mythology had demons far
> longer than Christianity (indeed, probably longer than any of the
> faiths of the descendents of Abraham). So what makes the Christian
> mythology "more domin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Paul Baker wrote:
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> What I propose to solve this is to lowercase the K. I think Debian
> GNU/kNetBSD reads a little better. It takes the emphasis off the k. And
> when adding the l for libc as well, Debian GNU/klNetBSD. Another option
> may also be pu
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:02:44 -0500, Nathan Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it
> > just the same if you wanted to call them Loki, Kali or Hitler. (To
> > pic
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > For a different, somewhat postmodern take on angels and demons, see the
> > roleplaying game _In Nomine_, published by Steve Jackson Games, which can
> > be played as pure good angels vs. evil demons, with complete moral
> > ambiguity,
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:30:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Demons are evil, and the BSD mascot is a demon (albeit a stylised
> >
> > Below is the first de
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:33:17PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I doubt knowledgeable and thoughtful adherents to the Christian
> > religion -- the kind who can actually attend a seminary and not flunk
> > out -- find the names I proposed part
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:31:11AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well I certainly have no idea of the historical background of the word,
> > but my `guessed derivation' does actually sort of make sense in that
> > context...
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