Re: tzdate 2016d update (released 2016-04-17) for future time stamps

2016-04-19 Thread Noel Torres
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Re: delete my resume in your web site

2014-12-02 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 3 de December de 2014 02:48:33 Jenny zhou escribió: > HI, > > I requested many time. but my resume is still on your web site. > > Can you help me to delete that? > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/07/doc_9rK_X0lC5.doc > Cached > Thanks, > > Jenny Did you sent it to t

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-12-01 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 18:05:54 Neil Williams escribió: [...] > Contribute code or stop wasting everyone's time on the mailing lists. Contributing code is not the only way to contribute to Debian. At least to the Debian I love. Please come out of the developer shell. Translators, e.g.

Re: DE features dependent on Systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 30 de November de 2014 13:55:04 Vincent Bernat escribió: > ❦ 30 novembre 2014 12:50 GMT, Ivan Shmakov : > > > PolicyKit rely on logind to know if a user is locally connected. A > > > non-local user won't be allowed things like network management, local > > > device mounting or soun

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-30 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 28 de November de 2014 07:45:29 Josselin Mouette escribió: [...] > This is nothing short of bullying. If you want to help our users, you > can contribute to debianfork, or you can improve your packages in > Debian. But spreading your bitterness on development forums is only > about hurti

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-26 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 26 de November de 2014 02:23:20 Paul Wise escribió: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Noel Torres wrote: > > Who our users are? > > Debian's users are the set of people and organisations who use Debian. Exactly. Who they are? The people who chose Debian, a

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 20:15:36 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 08:03:44PM +0000, Noel Torres wrote: > > > > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of > > > > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 19:50:48 Axel Wagner escribió: > Noel Torres writes: > > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of > > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs? > > Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:45:19 Josselin Mouette escribió: > -- > .''`. Josselin Mouette > : :' : > `. `' > `- On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 17:30:38 Stephen Gran escribió: > Cheers, > -- > - > > | ,''`.

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-24 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 24 de November de 2014 07:33:38 Matthias Urlichs escribió: > Hi, > > Noel Torres: > > Anyway I see that you do not use the noauto option. Is that on purpose? > > What? It's the very first option. My fault. My eyes looked for "defaults,noauto" whi

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-23 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 23 de November de 2014 15:09:53 Vincent Danjean escribió: > On 20/11/2014 21:44, Simon McVittie wrote: > > noauto is appropriate for detachable/removable media that are not > > normally present. The other option for such media is to leave them out > > of fstab altogether, and use somethi

Re: systemd, fstab, noauto and nofail

2014-11-21 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 20:44:17 Simon McVittie escribió: > On 20/11/14 19:06, Noel Torres wrote: > > On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió: > >> On Nov 20, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>> The first issue (fstab now fa

Re: Bug#769907: general: non-sysvinit init systems are made of fail

2014-11-20 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 20 de November de 2014 17:53:27 Marco d'Itri escribió: > On Nov 20, Sam Hartman wrote: > > The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd > > maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected. > > The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-17 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:20:56 Josselin Mouette escribió: > First, Don, I’d like to thank you for keeping the discussion civil. I > have made a serious accusation, and I don’t want it to be an excuse for > a mudfight. The point is not that you have made a serious accusation. It is your

Re: A concerned user -- debian Guidelines

2014-11-11 Thread Noel Torres
ternatives so high in the stair. [...] > Please make me (us ?) happy again. Happy of using Debian, wearing my Debian > Tee-shirt despite whatever people can tell me about it, and happy of > "spreading the word", making others choose Debian for it's social value as > m

Re: Bug#762116: marked as done (general: Some packages depend on a particular init system)

2014-09-19 Thread Noel Torres
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Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 16 de September de 2014 22:17:51 Joerg Jaspert escribió: > On 13698 March 1977, Didier Raboud wrote: > >> > One thought... there will probably be trademark concerns with > >> > "unix".[1] So we might have to choose a name for the tasksel task > >> > to be someting like "unix-like". > >>

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 21:26:50 Matthias Urlichs escribió: > Hi, > > Steve Langasek: > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:28:36PM +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote: > > > What about cases when init scripts doesn't come from any package but > > > are crafted by hand? > > > > It's straightforward

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Thursday, 11 de September de 2014 08:00:57 Marc Haber escribió: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 00:04:07 -0300, Martinx - ? > > wrote: > > Also, during Debian 8 installation, please, provide an "altinit" option ( > > > >http://pyro.eu.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-altinit/ ?), so, people can > >choo

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-16 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 14 de September de 2014 17:04:10 Stefano Zacchiroli escribió: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:17:34AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > I'm not arguing that "standard" should have nothing in it; it should > > have things that the vast majority of users will 1) expect to find > > present witho

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 18:55:06 Adam D. Barratt escribió: > On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 17:47 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: > > On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: > > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrot

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: > > openvpn package should Conflitcs systemd in order to avoid systemd being > > installed > > ITYM "to avoid openvpn being inst

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 03:12:16 Ben Hutchings escribió: > On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 21:24 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: > > On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 21:18:55 Tollef Fog Heen escribió: > > > ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez > > > > > > > Bu

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 16:51:20 Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta escribió: > AltSubject: For those who care about OpenVPN > > Dear fellow developers, > > This is a cry for help. I've been trying to support systemd in OpenVPN for > some time, but the results are not satisfactory. I'd like to k

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-09 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 21:18:55 Tollef Fog Heen escribió: > ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez > > > But if you don't (Is not uncommon to have servers on remote locations > > that are only accessible via ssh) and the machine don't boots properly > > you can find yourself in trouble. > > Th

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 16:11:02 Matthias Urlichs escribió: > Hi, > > Chris Bannister: > > > If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just > > > tell people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a > > > problem) than an "oh dear, it's so dangerous that

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Noel Torres wrote: > > >> So we are clearly failing to follow th

There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 18:52:44 Zack Weinberg escribió: > Abstractly, I believe the ideal situation would be for all init systems > in the archive to be *completely* co-installable, with /sbin/init a > symlink under control of the administrator; under no circumstances would > installing

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 21:36:43 Ansgar Burchardt escribió: > Nothing prevents you from a, installing systemd-shim from Jessie before > running apt-get dist-upgrade or b, using "apt-get dist-upgrade upstart". > > I'm fairly sure I saw this question also answered on -user@ once or > twice

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 09:57:34 Josselin Mouette escribió: > Noel Torres wrote: > > So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) > > path. > > > > Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv instead? > > No. System

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 3 de September de 2014 16:21:31 Svante Signell escribió: [...] > should be allowed, and I'm trying to find out how many of debian users > and developers are interested in working together with me on such a > solution. Best would be to have an option in the installer (hidden by [...]

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-05 Thread Noel Torres
On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 02:37:18 Cameron Norman escribió: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 02:57:16PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, envite wrote: > >> > Does this Cinnamon for Debian include syste

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 11 de August de 2014 16:34:04 Matthias Urlichs escribió: > Hi, > > Lennart Sorensen: > > it needs buttons on windows that people expect to see where they expect > > to see them > > You mean left vs. right side? > > > Would Debian be willing to make gnome3 have different defaults than

Desktop poll app [Was: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop]

2014-08-11 Thread Noel Torres
On Saturday, 9 de August de 2014 12:04:56 Axel Wagner escribió: [...] > I really think, in these kinds of discussions it would be helpfull to > get some kind of direct community-feedback. This would help *both* sides > in every of these discussions, because it would make it impossible for > either

Bug#279983: general: scsi emulated cdrom ide unit can't be correctly mounted first time

2004-11-06 Thread Noel Torres
Package: general Severity: important In my freshly rebooted computer (each time I reboot it): Each of the first times I try to do $ mount /cdrom I get an error answer: mount: /dev/scd0 no es un dispositivo de bloques válido (english: non valid block device) If I do # mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc