Hello,
Please retain me in CC for all replies.
Everyone reading this most likely believes that PGP/GPG is a good thing;
Many will advocate for its use-by-default for even unimportant
correspondences, because privacy is a right. Meanwhile, everyday usage
of encryption normalises it, which is impo
Control: noowner -1
Control: retitle -1 RFP: pika-backup -- simple backups based on borg
I'm converting this ITP to an RFP because six months have passed without
an update. Please feel free to revert to an ITP if The Debian Borg
Collective is still working on this package. Reply follows inline:
Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 12:03:16PM +0200, dude wrote:
>> what is the best practice for easy update & dist-upgrade:
>>
>> 1. in terms of speed and easy of distro updates, it makes sense to separate
>> * /root (software (programs) that can be re-downloaded) (on
Michael Stone writes:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:00:52AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>>On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:02:49AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
>>>It seems to install to /usr/bin/which.gnu, implying that you could
>>>upload /usr/bin/which.bsd if you so desire; what's the issue?
>>
>>I
Thomas Goirand writes:
> On 6/12/21 1:06 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 01:04:21 +0300, Nicholas Guriev
>> wrote:
>>> For the record, the latest digest of the debian-devel@ list #194
>>> consists of 17 emails. 13 of them are ITP forwards, the remaining 4
>>> emails are about ITP fo
Hi,
I've been working with Sławomir Wójcik to reintroduce scala-mode-el to
Debian. The version in Buster is: 20111005-2.1, whose source was:
svn co
http://lampsvn.epfl.ch/svn-repos/scala/scala-tool-support/trunk/src/emacs/
scala-mode
https://www.scala-lang.org/old/node/354
The replacement
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Hi,
On Thu., Oct. 8, 2020, 00:30 Nicholas Guriev, wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2020-10-07 at 19:17 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:15 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > > You should be aware that Ubuntu implemented this idea 2 years ago.
> >
> > Oh, I misread. Ubuntu used /usr/bin/browse b
Hi,
Ansgar writes:
> On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 15:50 +1200, Matthew Ruffell wrote:
>> I propose that we restrict access to dmesg to users in group 'adm' like so:
>>
>> 1) CONFIG_SECURITY_DMESG_RESTRICT=y in the kernel.
>> 2) Following changes to /bin/dmesg permissions in package 'util-linux'
>>
Hi,
Teemu Likonen writes:
> * 2020-08-14 00:55:03+02, Erik Gustafsson wrote:
>
>> To make my Debian installation compatible with "which -s" I have made a
>> merge request for this
>> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debianutils/-/merge_requests/6/diffs
>
> Reviewed-by: me, a random debian user.
>
Hi Scott, devel, and Python team,
Nicholas D Steeves writes:
> Control: block -1 by 962574
>
> Tomlkit seems to be required for self-tests.
>
Thank you for taking care of tomlkit so quickly! I wish I had more time
and energy to make faster progress with DepHell. Today I discovere
Hi Otto,
Thank you for providing an alternative voice in this discourse.
Otto Kekäläinen writes:
> Hello!
>
> Just my 2 cents: I hope Debian would not rush to any changes here.
> Lets just stay neutral for now. The subject seems very US-centric and
> there is a risk that it is creating division
Control: block -1 by 962574
Tomlkit seems to be required for self-tests.
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 01:03, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:49:01 AM EDT Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Nicholas D Steeves
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Hi Jonas and -devel,
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
> Quoting Mattia Rizzolo (2020-04-11 17:20:48)
>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:10:48AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 10:41:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> > > https://trends.debian.net/ was just updated (with data unti
Hi Bagas,
Andrey Rahmatullin writes:
> On Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 03:47:56PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
>> > Packages must be self-contained, using only their contents and the Debian
>> > repo during the build process. There are multiple technical and
>> > non-technical reasons for this requiremen
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Hi Russell,
Russell Coker writes:
> I just upgraded a Buster system to today's unstable and got the below. I
> think this should be regarded as a bug, but what is it a bug in? dpkg?
>
> Configuration file '/etc/smartd.conf'
> ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
> ==> Pa
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License
PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
writes:
>> That is mostly upstream's job -- ICD packagers should just verify that the
>> package still runs "Hello World" on their hardware, i.e. the ICD
>> integration works, and then we assume that it works.
>
> ok, so in that case it would be nice to provide a computer
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Hi,
I confirm the summary seems fair and reasonable with one
question/proposal (see below in line).
Sam Hartman writes:
> * Exploring what current social conventions are around pushing to other
> people's repositories in the debian group on salsa and documenting
> them. This is more about
Richard Laager writes:
> This all looks very good.
>
> Presumably the repository / Salsa project name should match the source
> package name? If so, that might be good to note, at least as the
> default.
>
I'm curious what other people think about this point, because it could
cause a lot of chur
Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> I'm wondering if there is something Debian can do to be even more
> successful in the container world. Like regular releases of a container
> base image from testing. The amount of packages that needed for that is
> limited, the number of RC bugs is probably low enough mos
Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> On 10/5/19 3:31 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:49 PM Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>>> On 24.07.19 08:17, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>
Do we have a build technology that uses containers instead of chroots
yet?
>>>
AFAIK sbuild has had this support for a whil
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Samuel Henrique writes:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 10:48, Mathias Behrle wrote:
>
>> ...BTW no discussion tool can help in automating
>> separate discussion threads when the topic changes.
>>
>
> They can, I think reddit and hackernews are good at this.
> That's the "tree-like" structure that I men
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 11:17:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Sep 08, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>
>> > I would rather see an explicit statement. I would be very surprised
>> > with Debian’s usual stance regarding the users’ privacy that we would
>> > not consider thi
Hi everyone,
I'm closing this ansible-doc ITP bug because it appears to obsolesced most
recently by:
ansible (2.7.5+dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=medium
* New upstream release
- fix for CVE-2018-16876 (Closes: #916102)
* Remove any loading of external resources from the docs
* Only symlink
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Hi,
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 01:55:06AM +0200, Vincent Tondellier wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 July 2019 23:11:24 Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Nicholas D. Steeves:
> > > Package name: fuidshift
> > > Version : 3.0
> > > Upstream Author : Name
> >
To everyone who is working on this problem, thank you :-)
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 10:38:14AM +0200, Michael Kesper wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On 09.07.19 09:17, Michael Kesper wrote:
> > I think this is still starting a little bit negative, maybe like this?
> >
> > If nobody adopts this package it w
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Dear Java Team,
Do you have any suggestions for working with the following?: (please
reply to -devel)
On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 10:34:50PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 09:20:34PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Sean Whitton, le sam. 05 janv. 2019 19:48:35 +, a ecrit:
Hi Joseph,
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 12:53:32PM -0800, Joseph Herlant wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> With one of my package (cmph), when I added debci tests, locally
> running autopkgtests using --run-autopkgtests in gbh that uses sbuild,
> I have no problem but when it runs on debci, it seems to miss packa
Fixed debian-de...@debian.org -> debian-devel@lists.debian.org so that
people who reply won't have to do this to avoid bounced emails. Sorry
for the mistake!
Hi James,
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:16:51PM -0400, James McCoy wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 05:33:06PM -0400, Nichola
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:31:40AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 09:18:13PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
> > Dear Adrian,
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> > > This is fake news.
> >
> > Please try and avoid casual use of this term on Debian lists.
> >
> > Whilst I understand your meaning a
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On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 07:46:59PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Paride Legovini , 2018-05-28, 17:33:
> > spm is a single fully POSIX shell compliant script
[...]
> > In Debian the script will be installed as 'spm.sh'
>
> That would be against Policy §10.4.
> Please talk to upstream about choosing
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:29:54AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 04/21/2018 11:19 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > Since we are supporting Python2 in the next release, there is no value> in
> > dumping python-* packages now. Unlike many areas of the archive,
> > Python packages are actively used
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CCing the Javascript Team.
Original post on debian-devel, see:
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Or alternatively:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/10/msg00262.html
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:32:55PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2017,
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On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:04:26AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > On 14767 March 1977, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > >> it has been quite a while since the last call for volunteers, so here is
> > >> an update: Yeah, we still need people, and
P.S. That cheat sheet isn't nearly as nice...as I'd like it to be I
wish it was a compact printable two or three column reference with
net-tools commands in bold and the short-form iw equivalent
underneath.
eg: 'ip -r r' is more or less equivalent to 'route'
signature.asc
Description: Digital si
Hi Maximilian!
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:07:47AM +0200, Maximilian Althaus wrote:
>
> but when I type
> route in the commend line debian say that this command is not found, but
> when I used Debian 8.8 jessie with the netinst-img without network access
> this commend worked. WHY??
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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 09:48:32PM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:40:56PM +0200, Carsten Leonhardt wrote:
> > I'm curious to see the long description, as I don't see the
> > relationship between tomatoes and timers.
>
> Sure!
>
> Description: tiny pomodoro timer for Emacs
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On 31 May 2017 at 13:53, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:31:43AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 11:32:29 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>> > Trust is not transitive. Perhaps Recommends should not be either?
>>
>> Recommends are for the relationship "want
On 30 May 2017 at 07:57, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my impression is that too many packages use Recommends that should
> really be Suggests. As a random example: installing dracut as a
> initramfs provider will pull in exim4... (dracut-core Recommends: mdadm
> which Recommends: default-mta
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On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 02:17:40AM +0200, Stéphane Aulery wrote:
>
> Yes, Debian is a community like another, and a community is build
> with shared principles. Design isn't principle, it is just a shameful
> exploitation of the idea of beauty, serving a precise purpose which
> is not a shared pri
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 10:01:38AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Christian Seiler wrote:
>
> > Could we maybe hide library packages from apt searches by default?
>
> This is going to have unintended consequences; for example, if we base
> it on Debian Section fields, lib
On 4 October 2016 at 16:40, Simon Quigley wrote:
> On 10/04/2016 03:16 PM, Bradley Robert Baago wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Quick question. Will the new plasma LTS release make it into the next stable?
>> I think it would be a mistake if it did not.
>>
> Looping in the related people.
>
> AFAIR from di
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 02:51:24PM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> 2016-09-29 14:15 GMT+03:00 Ben Hutchings :
> > On Wed, 2016-09-28 at 16:20 +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > [...]
> >> The thing is, right now, the user has two choices:
> >>
> >> 1) Trust d-i to make the right choices once,
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 02:19:00PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> "Jeremy T. Bouse" writes:
>
> > I'll start off by saying I haven't read the whole thread and only
> > caught this because of the subject line change.
>
> I direct you to Russ's message in this thread that explains exactly why
> “c
On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 11:27:49PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some
> > other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release,
> > similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* just
> > like a normal j
Hi Jeffrey,
On 12 July 2016 at 09:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> I think it would benefit more than Skylake users. The last few
> processors are missing support. Below is from a Core i5-5300U (5th
> gen) and a 3.19.0-64-generic kernel.
>
> **
>
> $ dmesg | egrep -i '(error|failed)'
> ...
>
On 4 July 2016 at 18:38, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-07-04 at 16:01 -0400, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:
> [...]
> [...]
>> So for radeon hardware enablement, there is 1) the proprietary driver
>
> fglrx is dead upstream and removed from unstable. (It's still
On 5 July 2016 at 08:40, Samuel Henrique wrote:
>
> 2016-07-05 7:43 GMT-03:00 Jose R R :
>>
>> We're getting to the point where there's a fairly pressing need for
>> arm64 - the more useful hardware is starting to get a wider distribution
>> and we don't really have anything for people who want to
On 4 July 2016 at 09:12, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Steve McIntyre (2016-07-04):
>> There's something I've been pondering for a while, along with some
>> other folks - it might be useful to do a "jessie and a half" release,
>> similarly to what we did in the etch days. That's *basically* ju
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