Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-25 Thread Miroslaw Baran
Uoti Urpala preached with fire in his heart and wind in his head: I'd say that mainly shows that systemd upstream has managed to develop things forward. Creating and changing things involves decisions, and there's no way to make everyone happy. And when old things are changed there's bound to be

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-01 Thread Miroslaw Baran
On Sun 02 Jun 2013 01:12:43 Uoti Urpala wrote: > Also, these issues were already covered in the thread a year ago (and > your post doesn't look like you'd have understood the arguments > there but disagreed). Your quality advocacy work for upstart is almost as good as Rob Weir's incessant effort

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread Miroslaw Baran
On Thu 23 May 2013 12:50:00 Steve Langasek wrote: > 78% is not a minority. But this isn't the statistic that gets > trotted out by people advocating for systemd; instead, they always > cherry-pick the statistics that paint it in the most favorable > light. Because systemd advocates are not trying

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-22 Thread Miroslaw Baran
> > * As you may know, systemd is developed by a large amount of >contributors. …as you may know, upstart is not only older than systemd, but is also used on a large amount of live systems, probably many times more the number of systems that have systemd installed.*⁾ Best regards, – Jubal