Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Roland Mas writes: > Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200: >> Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built >> on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised. > My initial idea about how one would go about implementing them > involved very s

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Raphael Hertzog writes: > I understand members of the release team feel particularly responsible to > do various release-critical tasks that should have been done by the > maintainers but haven't (for various reasons). And I guess that's the > reason of your remark. > > But that's not scala

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Hai! Pierre Habouzit writes: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:28:06PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> Size is just one ingredient. There are plenty of other ways to diminish >> barrier to deploy big changes in Debian: wider commit access rights, >> larger VCS repositories, more liberal NMUs, etc.

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:28:17AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> In the last years, Debian hasn't been able to contribute any important >> feature to the F/OSS distribution world - change (leading to both good >> or

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Raphael, it would be so great to reply to messages in single mails >> instead of squeezing (are you release-themed, or what?) all of your >> answers into one mail. I'm reall

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-30 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Hi, Lucas Nussbaum writes: > Eh? How do you fix stuff in the next release if you don't make uploads? > I'm not saying that the number of uploads should stay the same: it's > normal to see it going down during freezes, since there are less things > to change. However, if we think that DDs particip

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-29 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Raphael, it would be so great to reply to messages in single mails instead of squeezing (are you release-themed, or what?) all of your answers into one mail. I'm really tired of chasing a specific answer From you through the whole thread. Raphael Hertzog writes: > But I don't plan to work

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Julien Cristau writes: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt >>> would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want).>> >> I seem to recall, ft

Re: libcairo2 in squeeze & subpixel rendering

2010-08-15 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Stanislav Maslovski writes: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 05:22:27PM +0200, Sebastian Dröge wrote: >> Backporting the lcdfilter patch to 1.8.10 might be a solution for >> squeeze though. If someone wants to provide a patch that doesn't add any >> new public API I'd be fine with applying it to the unst

Re: Handling optimization flags in Debian packages

2010-04-04 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Tiago Bortoletto Vaz writes: > 1) consider that most of CPUs support this flag, so tell the reporter to > compile the package by him/herself. This is not acceptable and would make your package rc-buggy. Even though it's called i386 and in fact only supports i486, we are not in a state where we wa

Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-04-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Micah Anderson writes: > Clint Adams writes: >> [Adding and M-F-T-ing -project] [...] >> Were you there? Were Debian funds spend on this endeavor? What >> happened there? Most importantly, why is it all so secretive? > > Did I miss a response to these questions? I'm interested to know the > an

Re: Serializing transitions

2010-03-27 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Stéphane Glondu writes: > Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >> I don't an exhaustive answer but here are some points: >> 1/ you can't request bin-nmus of reverse-dependencies in experimental >>(to verify that all packages build fine with the updated package, and >>that's one of the main task in pr

Re: Serializing transitions

2010-03-26 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Hertzog writes: > To resolve the problems I suggest to serialize transitions in sid. This was already discussed a few times. > First the archive should block package uploads to sid that would be > starting a new transition (defining this in more details is left for > later). No, this ca

Re: Who is running non-free autobuilders

2010-03-23 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Michael Hanke writes: > since a while I try to figure out why a package is not being auto-built. > I was suggested to contact the "team that runs the non-free > autobuilders". However, I have trouble finding that team. Whom could I > contact -- neither google nor the wiki seems to know about them.

Re: definition of contrib & buildd inconsistency

2010-03-23 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Carlo Segre writes: > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> We are currently reworking the non-free support in the buildd >> network. In the long term, we want to be able to build whitelisted >> packages, and allow contrib packages to use binaries bu

Re: definition of contrib & buildd inconsistency

2010-03-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Carlo Segre writes: >>> An alternative which would remove the inconsistency is to make the >>> decision that contrib packages will not be built by the officeial >>> buildd network but have to be built as non-free packages are, on the >>> unofficial buildd network. >> If my understanding is current

Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-16 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, [CC/M-F-T -release@ set, don't see why this needs to be on -devel] Clint Adams writes: > I do not really know what you are talking about, but I do not > want the kids on the playground calling me a coward, so you > clearly have given me no choice but to accept your offer. > Unless you want

Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-14 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Luk Claes writes: > You seem to send the message that you can judge from the sideline how > things should be run, so I hereby invite you to join the Release Team > and do a proper job. > > If you don't take the challenge I'll interpret that as you being a > coward who does not deserve to be heard

Re: sbuild version 0.60.0 released

2010-02-24 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
gregor herrmann writes: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:04:22 +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> 5) buildd has been synched with the buildd code in use on the Debian >> buildd infrastructure, and is now in use on most, if not all, >> running buildds. It has undergone extensive changes since the >>

Re: Bits from the release team: Release schedule; the RT needs YOU

2010-02-15 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 07:15:52PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: >> On Mon, 08.02.2010 at 20:13:48 +0100, Marc Brockschmidt >> wrote: >> > we wish to freeze only after the number of these bugs has dropped below >> > the mark of 300. As you can see on the usual overview

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, As I'm one of the people who have at some point volunteered to help with the dev-ref, but mostly failed to actually do work, I guess I could say a few words, without any pretense of actually knowing better than all the other people who have already commented... Lucas Nussbaum writes: > OK,

Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union

2009-08-25 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Steffen Joeris writes: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:51:48 am Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Release Goals >> = [...] >> - kFreeBSD: >> Debian 6.0 Squeeze should be the first Debian release shipping with >> a non-Linux kernel. > Out

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Sandro Tosi writes: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 00:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> First there wasnt much notice (as people already said), but also second: >> The thing most important for us DDs, which is for the day-to-day work >> the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere during that time, to allow you >>

Orphaning some perl packages

2008-12-27 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
retitle 456924 O: libgstreamer-perl -- Perl interface to the gstreamer noowner 456924 thanks Heya, In my quest to get rid of tasks I don't have the motivation to actually work on, I want to give up some of my packages. Basically, there are three groups: Packages that are just fine and need a main

Re: problems installing kdesvn for KDE4

2008-10-29 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
[This doesn't affect the actual issue, so redirected to just -devel again] Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stefano Avallone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> while trying to install kdesvn from experimental, I got the following >> error: > Please report a bug against kdesvn - severity impo

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-20 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems we relied primarily on the release team, which has betrayed > the goals of the project, I do not accept to be called names because I firmly believe that Debian's goal is to distribute the best possible free software to our users. All of our wor

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-19 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Have I missed some announcement that DFSG violations don't matter for > the release of ‘lenny’? No, because they generally matter. > I ask because a whole lot of bug reports of DFSG violations have been > tagged ‘lenny-ignore’ without explanation: [...] >

Re: Britney error with the gossip package?

2008-10-07 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm assuming there are records of unblocks beyond the mailing list > archive? The release team's hint files are available: http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/hints/ In this case: testing/hints/luk:unblock gossip/1:0.31-1 We move hints that were done

Re: Suggested improvements to the release-critical bug tracker

2008-09-13 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Michael Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest that, by default, the release-critical tracker page list > only those bugs that do not have a fix uploaded yet (make it optional > to list all current RC issues). Try the alternative interface on http://bts.turmzimmer.net, which provides ev

Re: packages up for adoption

2008-08-27 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>and one a month old, >> >>An upstream contributor promised to fix it and I'm waiting for a patch to >>test the fix. > There is a workaround and the RC bug could be downgraded to important. No. Having a workaround in the bug log is not somethin

Re: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-22 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Andreas Henriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The previous discussions has lead nowhere. No use in discussing it yet > again, instead it's time to act! Put down that crack pipe. Now. > I offer to fix up all packages to exim4 | mail-transport-agent *and* > when there is a working default-mta pr

Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-05 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Back in the Old Days when I ran an Alpha buildd (years ago), things > never got automatically marked not-for-us; that happened manually. > After asking around on IRC a few weeks ago, there is no longer consensus > that's how it happens now. Does anybody k

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-30 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Wolf Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages >> which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced) >> transition to a new package n

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 05/29/08 08:01, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I usually run 'apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate' to find them. The >>> remaining list is sh

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 29/05/08 at 13:24 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages >> which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced) >> trans

Handling of removed packages

2008-05-29 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, For some time now, I have been thinking about the problem of packages which are removed from the archive at some point, without an (enforced) transition to a new package name. Users of such packages keep them around, usually never noticing the fact that no security (or other) support is avai

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to suggest a new release goal The release goal list is frozen. We will only drop goals, not add new ones. Marc -- Fachbegriffe der Informatik - Einfach erklärt 287: Palestinänsertipper 1 Anschlag pro Minute. (Bodo Eggert) p

Re: broken .orig.tar.gz (Re: package upload rejected - no email)

2008-03-16 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080315 21:12]: >> $ cat /srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/rhinote_0.7.0-2_i386.reason >> Rejected: md5sum and/or size mismatch on existing copy of >> rhinote_0.7.0.orig.tar.gz. >> Rejected: can not overwrite exi

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Your English is much better than my German. Nevertheless either your > English is inadequate for the role you are attempting to fill or else > you are deliberately trying to provoke an argument. My english has its flaws, but I'm usually able to follow a dis

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> You seem to believe that Frans decides if and when we are going to >> switch to a dep-based init system. > That is a completely ridiculous simplification of Mike's mail and also does &g

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
[Not CCing -dpkg anymore, not relevant there] Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Triggers are "needed" - a necessary condition, or at least a highly > desirable condition - for efficient installation of packages in order > to avoid unnecessary repetitive global reorderings of the initscript >

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking > updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is > needed for boot time improvements dpkg triggers are nice to have, but they are not the reason why we haven't swi

Re: Bits from the armel porters

2008-03-07 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the second point, armel must keep up-to-date and must not have > build failures affecting armel. The current buildds are struggling to > keep upto date, so 4 new Thecus machines have now been ordered to be set > up as normal/testing/security buildds and

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Michael Casadevall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about simply decoupling mips/mipsel's version numbers so an out of > date package on mips(el) doesn't stall out the rest of the > testing. Having (somewhat) setup britney/update_out to generate testing > for m68k, it should just be a matter of

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it be possible to allow the migration in testing of the package > that are waiting for being build on mips or mipsel until the buildd > problem is fixed? Same answer as a few days ago: No. Marc -- Fachbegriffe der Informatik - Einfach erklärt 24

Re: Buildd backlog and testing transition.

2008-03-02 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the moment, the answer is: > > As a side effect trying to build ghc6 on MIPS, many (hundreds?) other > packages are blocked from migrating to testing for more than a month. Eh, what? You think that mips* is the problem here? What about the missi

Re: Build of Paje on mipsel : what hapens ?

2008-02-29 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, I've two questions: > - can someone tell me why paje.app has not been tried on mipsel ? What > should I do ? Due to kernel problems, the mips* buildds haven't been very reliable in the past few weeks, creating a lng backlog of packages that

Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections

2008-02-26 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.02.26.1018 +0100]: >> I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed >> animal would belittle Debian. > Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it "yet another FOSS > project w

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "As long as there's interest the software will stay alive" is one of the > main tenets of Free Software. Consequently, IMHO, as long as there's people > willing to maintain it, it shouldn't be removed regardless of how old it > is. GNO

Re: testing migration/autobuilding postgresql-filedump-8.2

2008-01-08 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:45:29PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> On 07/01/2008, Michael Meskes wrote: >>> Now the question ariss, what went wrong? And also of course could >>> someone please reschedule this package or do whatever is needed to get >>>

Re: Availability of wanna-build sources

2008-01-06 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Roger Leigh wrote: >> Does anyone know where the sources for the current version of >> wanna-build in use on our buildds may be found? > The current version is the one of the repository you mentioned. If you > mean the experimental version, well I suppose tha

Re: List of packages which should probably be Architecture: all

2008-01-03 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >perl-base That's a false positive. Please also take a look at Pre-Depends. Or simply let off of this effort, the number of false positives is enormous. Marc -- BOFH #343: The ATM board has run out of 10 pound n

Re: priorities

2007-12-10 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> I believe it to be one of the more important bits of a standard Unix >> *desktop* installation - but this just reminds me of the fact that I'm

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-15 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's >>>

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-11 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's > not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard Unix > installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for > servers). I believe it to be one of th

Re: proposed release goal: DEBIAN/md5sums for all packages

2007-08-17 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pe, 2007-08-17 kello 10:07 +0200, Romain Francoise kirjoitti: >> It seems to me that the time spent to generate it on the buildds is >> probably insignificant compared to the total time needed to build >> the package... And since generating it can be do

Re: [CMake] Producing deb package with 'ar'

2007-08-06 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 08/06/07 07:32, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > [snip] >> That will not work. ar(1) is GNU ar on most systems, while dpkg uses >> ar-as-in-BSD-ar. The diffeences are subtle, but lead to problems in >> some

Re: [CMake] Producing deb package with 'ar'

2007-08-06 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Mathieu Malaterre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 8/6/07, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:34:40PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >>> I am currently working on integrating debian packaging system in >>> cpack (part of CMake, see cmake.org). Basic

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Please either address the points raised by the message you're replying >> to, or don't. > IMHO that message was a hand waving not deserving reading. Thus i > dissagre, that i didn't addressed its points in my reply. If you feel there were no points raised

Re: binNUMUs - all-depends-any

2007-06-23 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I know that the git-core package doesn't support binNMUs, and AFAIK > there's no convenient way to change that, as it builds arch: all package > that depend on the specific arch: any package. > > http://bugs.debian.org/423041 > > Loosening the dependen

Re: Odd dh_strip failure with some packages

2007-06-18 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looking at build logs on i386, the common problem for many seems to be > variations of: > > dh_strip > strip: unable to copy file > 'debian/libwebauth-perl/usr/lib/perl5/auto/WebAuth/WebAuth.so' reason: > Permission denied > > I can't duplicate this with

Re: Testers needed: aptitude 0.4.5.2

2007-06-17 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:01:27PM +0200, Vince H&K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: >> Daniel Burrows wrote: >>> If I don't hear about any show-stoppers in the next week or so, I'll >>> upload the new version of aptitude to unstable. Positive

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-13 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 13/06/07 at 15:19 +0100, Paul Wise wrote: >> On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached >> >testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months). >> S

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-13 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 13/06/07 at 11:19 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> * Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070612 23:17]: >>> On 12/06/07 at 22:23 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: unstable is meant for packages that should be in the next stable release, as such only pa

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-13 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/12/07, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 04:40:54PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: * What do you mean by "switch unstable automatic nature to not automatic" >>> In a few words, move the 'NotAutomatic: yes

Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.

2007-06-12 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 10:57:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >>> There's also the fact that if you remove experimental it's easy enough >>> for people to set up their apt repositories somewhere if they want to >>> provide packages outside of unstable

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-05 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Library maintainers are supposed to maintain the *.symbols file. For >> this, they have to create files "debian/.symbols." >> (dpkg-gensymbols will try too fallback to "debian/symbols.", >> "debian/.symbols"

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Apart from that gothic fonts were forbidden by law in 1941 and replaced by >> latin type of lettering. So the feeling is really nothing more than a >> feeling in this case. > I can't believe that... gothic fonts are forbidden in Germany by law!!!??? No.

Re: checklib

2007-05-30 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:28:43 +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> What Guillem said is that checklib also indicated binaries which are >> linked against a library without using any of its symbols. Thus the >> binary shouldn't have been

Re: CDD: GastroLinux (RFC)

2007-05-14 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 14 May 2007, Francois-Denis Gonthier wrote: >>> Beware that in (at least fr_FR) french, "gastro" is also a shortcut >>> for "gastroenteritis" and is strongly associated with its symptoms! >>> It may really hamper your success in french-speaking co

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-13 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 10 May 2007, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On Wed, 09 May 2007, Gustavo Franco wrote: >>>> I don't think that it will be accepeted as

Re: Announce: DebianArt.org

2007-05-10 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 09 May 2007, Gustavo Franco wrote: >> I don't think that it will be accepeted as art.debian.org though, not >> ugly enough yet. > What does that mean ? Usually the web services on debian.org hosts provide access to quite ugly pages. See -www fo

Re: Estimating number of existing Debian users

2007-05-09 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (B) A unique IP represents a single system (Even though DHCP may > change IP address over a month's period, NAT may share IP addresses). That does look wrong. At least here in Germany, most broadband users get a new IP every 24 hours, so a single user c

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-22 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 16 March 2007 00:49, Steve Langasek wrote: >> A large fraction of bug reports are bad or incomplete, so you need to >> ensure that you can contact bug submitters for more information. >> >> HTTP doesn't give you a callback mechanism, so you need

Re: On management

2007-02-28 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, I certainly agree with some of things you said, as I also believe that Debian could profit from better management and/or planning in some areas, I don't think this would have made the timely release of etch possible. Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Back in September, it seeme

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-23 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 08:36:26AM -0500, Matthias Julius a écrit : >> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Would it be possible to record the name of the human that marked the >>> package in debian/changelog? That would be a big help, I think (

Re: GNOME and usability.

2007-02-17 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seems I am not the only one that believes GNOME is limiting. > > Linus Torvalds has submitted patches. I am betting they get ignored or > rejected with "to complex for our idiot users". > > Yes, Joss could you please explain this away for me? Errrm, I kno

Re: fluxbox

2007-02-14 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I am sure yoush hasn't done a thing with it, as Experimental packages > don't need to be maintained, period. Bullshit. Experimental is a playground, not a graveyard for development releases. It's supposed to be used as a testing ground for unstable,

Re: RFC: use readable $(cmd) syntax instead of unreadable `cmd`

2007-02-10 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [wether to use $() or ``] > Le't call this "wishlist" if we need to be pedantic. I would still > call this a bug from a QA perspective. Quality is more than "valid > syntax". This is not a bug. Not even wishlist. Even discussing this issue is a senseless wast

Re: Mirror of archive maintenance scripts

2007-01-28 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Is their a developer-accessible mirror (on a non-restricted host) of >> the archive maintenance which are in production, including (most of) >> the configuration? > dak is managed in a bzr repository: > http

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-01-24 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:18:48AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 20:51:27 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> (More than a few days later, it seems like still nothing is >>> happening...) >> i can see a couple o

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-16 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2) the Debian menu requires xpm icons [2] and in fact only 4 packages >have icons in the png format (ekiga, evince, gimp, gnomemeeting), To be fair, the .png icon referenced by the evince menu file doesn't exist... > 4) evince doesn't appear by defau

Re: x86 buildd for experimental ?

2007-01-08 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a lot of gnome 2.16 currently in experimental has been uploaded for > amd64, there's a lot of it not built for x86 yet. > > I heard several times people claim experimental was autobuilt, but are > there any x86 autobuilder set up for experimental ? Ther

Re: Bonsai: Candidate for removal from the archive?

2006-12-04 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 02:45:26AM +, Stephen Gran wrote: >> You need Pre-Depends only when a package must be configured before your >> postinst is run. In the case of a perl module, I would think it only >> needs to be unpacked. > No, you need a Pr

Re: Bonsai: Candidate for removal from the archive?

2006-12-04 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt dijo [Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 11:47:45AM +0100]: >>>> use File::Find; >>> Provided by perl-modules, which is build-essential. However, this >>> module is used at installation time (in

Re: Mass closing of bugs ?

2006-12-03 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Considering that the maintainer scripts have not been inherited from > mozilla, and that the mozilla engine is pretty different, may I just > close all the bugs assigned to old mozilla packages, requesting a > reopen if the bug still exists in iceape ? I b

Re: Bonsai: Candidate for removal from the archive?

2006-12-03 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> use File::Find; > Provided by perl-modules, which is build-essential. However, this > module is used at installation time (in postinst), so yes, this should > be listed as a pre-depends (as it's not a required/essential package) Why exactly do you need a

Re: How to properly close a non-existent bug?

2006-08-02 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
close 369605 thanks "Francisco Moya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package zeroc-icee-translators lists an outstanding bug #369605 filed > 63 days ago.  I don't know how to properly handle this situation > since: > - It was actually a bug report against package zeroc-ice.  No, it wasn't. it was

Re: header sanity check?

2006-07-08 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > 1. If you #include a header directly, you have to depend on that > package. [...] > 4. If you #include a header that doesn't belong to *any* package > (including the source package you're currently building), that's just > outright evi

Orphaning blam

2006-07-06 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
retitle 360583 O: blam -- an RSS aggregator for GNOME Johan Svedberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm no longer maintaining blam. I've sent out a RFA[1] but it doesn't > seem like anyone has picked it up. If you are not intending to maintain the package, you should orphan it, not ask for an adopte

Re: Renaming a package

2006-05-29 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.29.2122 +0200]: >> I think the usual way is to provide the dummy binary package >> immediately from the new source package and file a bug for removal >> of the old source package. > Sounds like a

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-27 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"curt manucredo (hansycm)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > II.B. on the upload and storage side > > > the upload process may need some more changes though (e.g.: for > automation). if this ever comes true, there will have to be a period of > time where both, the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Java flamewar] > DPL, I wonder Why the Sun-Java package is not handled the same as any > other package. What makes it so special that it deserves special > treatment? > > Isn't this a discrimination against all other packages? :-) ACK. This is the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-18 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Hi *DPL*, Anthony Towns writes: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 11:09:30PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> First off, I'm going to completely ignore the FAQ as the FAQ and the >> license both specifies that the FAQ does not have any legal validity. > Repeating frequently asked questions that have alread

Re: Intent to hijack Bacula

2006-05-11 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Roberto Lumbreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Ok, the maintainer has not fixed the bugs, has not packaged the last > version of it in time, etc, but he has done a great job anyway, and I > still don't see the point of hijacking the package. So he has done not one of the things expected of

Re: Bits from the 2IC

2006-05-11 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:10:16AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Unfortunately, other mailing list discussions have been less >> happy. A somewhat acrimonious argument between Sven Luther and members >> of the d-i team spread out across various lists, sta

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like i386-uclibc, > which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of having the CPU arch first > and the OS name the next. There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386?

Re: Bug#356384: ITP: libtest-use-ok-perl -- Alternative to Test::More::use_ok

2006-03-12 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Package name: libtest-use-ok-perl [...] > Description : Alternative to Test::More::use_ok > > According to the Test::More documentation, it is recommended to run use_ok() > inside a BEGIN block, so functions are exported at c

Re: Pre-Stable Distro

2006-03-01 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
"Joseph Smidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Once every three months the new "Pre-Stable" distro will upload only > those packages from testing that have had 0 RC bugs for at least month > and have been flagged by their maintainers as a good version to entet > stable. This would mean, with a year

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-02-16 Thread Marc &#x27;HE' Brockschmidt
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The Perl syntax is elegant, efficient and Python's regexp handling is >> nowhere as intuitive as needed for day-to-day tasks where the poer is >> needed. > Efficient, perhaps, but _elegant_?!? HAhahahahah1hahah3$I1

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