Re: Porter roll call for Debian Bookworm

2021-12-30 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
e d-i bugs - test d-i regularly - fix d-i bugs/issues I am a DD. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-05-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
couldn't find the admin address in the main pages), but they're not registered in the graphs (while powerpcpse, recently removed, still is). https://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-ports-week-big.png -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
onality from the new librsvg. (And if packages do start having such dependencies, they'll get held back too.) That's not really true either, I needed to build a librsvg-in-c to be able to build emacs, so it's already affecting some ports. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Followup on C++ standardisation meeting

2018-11-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
ly in such an important decision-taking meeting as this C++ one in San Diego. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
on which very few people relies upon except for firmware. But people in this thread seem to think otherwise, so... dunno. At a minimum, I don't have an easy way to do the initial binary build of librsvg-c required for the NEW queue. There are porterboxes for that, but if it helps, I can build it for you. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-06 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, 2018-11-04 17:32 Ben Hutchings: On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 13:15 +0100, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: For example RISC-V / riscv64 will probably not have LLVM ready at least until the LLVM stable released next March. There are enough languages whose implementation depends on LLVM that

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-04 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
;t. So the repayment for him to spend time and make Rust work in many architectures, is to blow away his work in a lot of other arches. Not nice. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/11/msg0.html Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: GCC and binutils updates for buster

2018-08-14 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2018-08-13 04:25 Paul Wise: On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: 2018-07-30 22:36 Adrian Bunk: And the next burden will be if riscv64 gets added in bullseye. [*] Unlike other arches, this one is not restricted to a single vendor so hardware can be

Re: GCC and binutils updates for buster

2018-08-12 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
le vendor so hardware can be annouced at any time from unexpected parties; still, only a few months are left. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Building Debian packages in CI (ick)

2018-07-20 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
ions of the ISA, 128-bit is a bit far-fetched today but riscv32 maybe not so, just that nobody was interested so far. So the -64 was always considered as part of the name from the start. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: e2fsprogs as Essential: yes?: Maybe we should be separating l10n files first?

2018-01-05 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
ssibly send fixes or more profiles if they're convenient for bootstrapping :) Thanks, and thanks to Simon too for beating me to it! -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: e2fsprogs as Essential: yes?: Maybe we should be separating l10n files first?

2018-01-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
I suppose the real problem is that a random developer who is trying to bootstrap Debian on a new architecture won't know about this trick, but in case it's helpful, I thought I would mention it. Thanks, it's useful to know :) (Waving to the RISC-V folks.) o/ -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-28 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2017-12-28 2:33 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Bicha : > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo > wrote: >> If the idea is *not* to move those to @lists.d.o, I cannot see what we >> should be using instead. >> >> Any recommendation? > > Someone on yo

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-27 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
lthough I admit that I haven't been following very closely every single message. If the idea is *not* to move those to @lists.d.o, I cannot see what we should be using instead. Any recommendation? Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: allowed uses of non-baseline CPU extensions

2017-10-28 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
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Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-09-17 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2016-08-28 21:50 Sean Whitton: Hello, On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:13:44AM +0100, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: I think that one measure to improve the current situation is that, for the people doing NMUs, to orphan the package when the number of NMUs exceeds for example 3 or 5 in a row

Re: [RFC] Adding pkg-config to build-essential

2016-09-17 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
o implement (and if undertaken, takes years to complete, if ever). Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-28 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
y-maintained-but-de-facto-neglected packages are not better in that front either. [2] I think that I see recommended somewhere that I cannot find right now, but it is not "officially" endorsed or not general practice, as far as I know. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Debian i386 architecture now requires a 686-class processor

2016-05-11 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
n be changed with: dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Extending the build profile namespace

2016-04-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, 2016-04-25 19:06 Helmut Grohne: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 01:28:00PM +0100, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: Perhaps these OPTIONS and PROFILES should be merged, in a way that if one is enabled, the other also is. (Is this the plan already?) They serve different needs. Quite a few

Re: Extending the build profile namespace

2016-04-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
e where your whole set can be used to rebuild and improve itself to a full-fledge Debian. Unless I hear objections, I will start using those profiles and ask lintian maintainers to relax profile checks. This message is not an objection, just thinking aloud in the case that the ideas above help in some way (even if only to gauge the mindset). Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
dencies("Recommends"): if not rd.installed_target_versions: print pkg, rd There's also: aptitude (ncurses) -> Views -> Audit recommendations (with explanations/rdeps in the panel at the bottom) or its equivalent in the command line (without the explanation): a

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
crease in overall quality. Agreed. I think that the moment we're leaning too much towards the side of not pruning the cruft for a long time, and some automatic ways to detect it (as the many measures proposed in the thread) would be a nice thing to have. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

partial architectures -- was: Re: Defaulting to i686 for the Debian i386 architecture

2015-09-29 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2015-09-29 17:38 Wookey: +++ Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2015-09-29 12:27 +0100]: Maybe it would be a good idea to split the architectures, and have one port for legacy-but-still-sold-or-useful i386 and move the current i386 to only support newer, common-use i686 hardware. It seems to me

Re: Defaulting to i686 for the Debian i386 architecture

2015-09-29 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
a port as well, excluding undesided packages. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
ut I would typically be doing other things at the same time (like selecting a bunch of packages to upgrade, or choosing manually between the optional or suggested dependencies that I want to install along with the package). Hope that helps. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150401225858.ga26...@reva.itsari.org

Re: Age of built packages to be part of the jessie release?

2014-11-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-11-25 11:14 Dimitri John Ledkov: On 24 November 2014 at 18:56, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: Would it make sense to trigger rebuilds (or binNMUs, or actions to the same effect) for all packages in a given architecture when there are important changes in the toolchain, e.g. the

Re: Age of built packages to be part of the jessie release?

2014-11-24 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
needs and methods to approach them. Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141124185606.ga29...@reva.itsari.org

Re: Determining, ad hoc, whether someone is a DD

2014-10-16 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
c/people -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141016170333.ga2...@reva.itsari.org

Re: Two new architectures bootstrapping in unstable - MBF coming soon

2014-08-28 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-08-28 01:55 Wookey: +++ Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2014-08-27 20:25 +0100]: Congrats! The sooner that you graduate out of debian-ports, the better for other architectures that want to get into ;-) -- although arm64 is still there, for some reasons. We are using the binaries in

Re: Two new architectures bootstrapping in unstable - MBF coming soon

2014-08-27 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
x27;m curious about what happened with that, does anybody know? Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201

Re: Not the only one. Was: Re: Bug#757555: pam: CVE-2014-2583 pam_timestamp directory traversal issues

2014-08-10 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
e that the team is busy and all, but adding the changes from a NMUdiff is not too much extra job in my experience (if that's what you find annoying about it?). Cheers. -- Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-05-15 02:10 Wookey: The debian-port arm64 rebootstrap is progressing nicely, and we just passed 4200 source packages built, with another few hundred pending. There are now 2 buildds running. In the course of that 344 have failed to build, (see http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/architect

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-26 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-25 23:32 Wookey: +++ Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo [2014-04-25 09:42 +0100]: ... a recent/ongoing thread, about using dh-autoreconf or something similar ... Nobody in the thread tried to apply the same logic with configure script compared to minified .js. The case of configure

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-26 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-26 11:00 Vincent Bernat: ❦ 26 avril 2014 01:31 CEST, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo  : Compared to that amount of work, stripping a few files from a tarball using uscan is utterly trivial and I don't see why it is a problem. It's quite a bit harder to do the right thing an

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery

2014-04-26 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-26 02:30 Charles Plessy: Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 03:48:51PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : Ignoring a bug because you set your priorities is understandable and (in some cases) good. Adding an override is not. There are also benefits from using an override: - It shows that the message h

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-04-26 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-26 07:51 Ben Finney: "Steve M. Robbins" writes: On April 25, 2014 11:02:29 PM Ben Finney wrote: > We promise the source for everything any recipient downloads as part > of Debian. If non-source files are distributed in Debian source > packages, without a way to confidently guarantee th

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-25 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-26 00:08 Vincent Bernat: ❦ 25 avril 2014 17:40 CEST, Neil Williams  : Compared to that amount of work, stripping a few files from a tarball using uscan is utterly trivial and I don't see why it is a problem. It's quite a bit harder to do the right thing and persuade upstream to not incl

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-25 8:49 GMT+01:00 Matthias Urlichs : > Hi, > > Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo: >> a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition. > > Sorry, but _my_ definition of "source code" is "whatever you customarily > edit when you want to change somet

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-25 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-25 5:20 GMT+01:00 Gunnar Wolf : > Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo dijo [Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 01:27:02AM +0100]: >> To both things above, I don't think that this is different to my example of >> 'configure' script without corresponding .ac/.in; and I don&

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-24 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-25 01:07 Gunnar Wolf: And even having a pointer to the upstream project is not enough: We have to ship full sources, both for (part of) our licenses' requirements, and to be able to properly support our projects in the future. If http://some.developer.net/projects/JS-Foo disappears from

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-24 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-25 00:02 Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo (2014-04-25 00:23:33) 2014-04-24 21:31 Jonas Smedegaard: >Quoting Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo (2014-04-24 21:48:47) >> a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition. > >Which def

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-24 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
2014-04-24 21:31 Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo (2014-04-24 21:48:47) a) the minified .js is still source code, by definition. Which definition? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minified Basically, no matter how much you

Re: lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-24 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
Correction: 2014-04-24 20:48 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo: b) The first lines of the unminified file clearly states the software projects, ^^ minified version, and URLs to get the non-minified versions, so if users want to

lintian "source-is-missing" for jquery -- was Re: Bug#744699: Frets On Fire bug report 744699

2014-04-24 Thread Manuel A . Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, Moving from debian-devel-games to debian-devel@ for opinions about if this lintian warning is OK to override or not, or in general about what to do with lintian warning about minified JS. 2014-04-24 00:33 Bas Wijnen: lintian is right that the file does not have source, but we don't ship th

Re: Bug#711570: ITP: libsdl2-mixer -- Mixer library for SDL2

2013-06-24 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2013-06-11 17:13 Barry deFreese: On 6/11/2013 11:56 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 07:04:30AM -0400, Stephen M. Webb wrote: Normally you would keep the old version's changelog. But even if you don't, there's no need for an ITP in cases like this, or when part of a packag

Bug#711571: ITP: libsdl2-net -- Network library for SDL2

2013-06-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian SDL packages maintainers * Package name: libsdl2-net Version : 2.0.0~rc1 Upstream Author : Sam Lantinga * URL : http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/SDL_net/ * License : zlib/linpng Programming Lang: C Description :

Bug#711570: ITP: libsdl2-mixer -- Mixer library for SDL2

2013-06-07 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian SDL packages maintainers * Package name: libsdl2-mixer Version : 2.0.0~rc1 Upstream Author : Sam Lantinga * URL : http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/SDL_mixer/ * License : zlib/linpng Programming Lang: C Description

Re: What to do with bug reports against non-existing/removed packages

2012-05-19 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2012/5/19 Andrei POPESCU : > On Vi, 18 mai 12, 14:34:40, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: >> >> So I wouldn't blindly close those bug reports, and that's why I'm >> triaging and handling them in my spare time. > > Do you know how to retrieve

Re: What to do with bug reports against non-existing/removed packages

2012-05-18 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2012/5/18 Thomas Preud'homme : > According to [1] salome is not part of any debian release now. Did I miss > something? IIRW, for package still in stable, if the -done mail contains the > right version then the bug will still be visible as long as it affects stable. Oh yes, egroupware only in olds

Re: What to do with bug reports against non-existing/removed packages

2012-05-18 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2012/5/18 Neil Williams : > There's a big difference between these bugs and the rest - here there > are clear migration paths to later packages which can be used to triage > the bug reports in order not to lose reports. A lot of the rest *can* > be closed without more triage work because the packag

Re: What to do with bug reports against non-existing/removed packages

2012-05-18 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, 2012/5/18 Daniel Leidert : > Hi, > > Our bug tracker contains items for packages, which do (not longer) exist. > What should happen to them? I see, that it might be a good idea to keep them > for the case, a package is re-introduced. But this might happen only for a > few packages. Most of

Re: Bugs for packages which don't exist anymore / missing maintainer

2012-04-03 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2012/4/3 Gergely Nagy : >> Why do these bugs loose that link to their source package? Have they >> been gone so long the package isn't even in old-stable anymore and the >> BTS doesn't record the source package anywhere? > > Pretty much, yes. Also happens that the source package generates several

Re: Bugs for packages which don't exist anymore / missing maintainer

2012-04-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2012/4/1 Gergely Nagy : >> 2) What to do now with all of these bug reports?  Reassign them to the >> related source package in unstable?  Contact QA? Nothing at all? > > The best course of action would be to check whether the reported issue > is still valid, and reassign to the appropriate (source)

Bugs for packages which don't exist anymore / missing maintainer

2012-03-31 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hello, I don't know if there's a more appropriate place to ask for this, if so please tell me. While looking for a bug report that I knew that existed but that I couln't find, I noticed that the bug was assigned to libwhatever-SOVERSION_OLD, and that the current package in the archive contains li